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by White Lotus
Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Creative Writing
Topic: Medicine for own heart.
Replies: 7
Views: 2066

Re: Medicine for own heart.

:namaste: thank u Muni, beautiful truths. But not as beautiful as the artist to whom they belong. Love, T X
by White Lotus
Thu May 21, 2020 4:34 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

I think that the key to relinquishing consciousness is relinquishing not only personal self feeling
(Arhat), but also world self feeling (Mahayana, Vajrayana, Zen). Tom x :namaste:
by White Lotus
Wed May 20, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Play is good! All this is play. :hi:
by White Lotus
Wed May 20, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

When “This” is gone and the world is no longer grasped as real or false, no longer grasped in any way; then consciousness is gone? And yet is not gone. I see without seeing. The blind squirrel gets the nut. Kind regards, Tom. :namaste:
by White Lotus
Wed May 20, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Last Legend, you are the master. Don’t let me deceive you. You can teach me about the skhandas. But it seems to me that the skhandas are gone when seeing is gone. Seeing without seeing. You need to remain with “This” until it dissolves itself. When there is no seeing there is no grasping of consciou...
by White Lotus
Wed May 20, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Remain in the alert clarity until it loses all importance and is forgotten about. Clarity is another fabrication. Rest in this here now until it disappears of its own like a cloud in blue sky. The True Self cannot last. Awareness burns up all fabrications including itself eventually too. No nest to ...
by White Lotus
Tue May 19, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Buddha nature, emptiness and consciousness all forgotten? :meditate:
All fabrications. Forgetfulness forgotten. The world and all stages forgotten? Nothing to say,
Nothing to add, not anything to take away. Blind, all seeing done. Deaf, not a thing to hear.
What do you say Last Legend?
by White Lotus
Mon May 18, 2020 4:22 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Subtle ignorance is experience of self. Karma is experienced by self deluded. No self no problem. Then again ordinary mind is the site of enlightenment and zen mind is beginners mind. Self is is Buddha Consciousness is enlightenment just as it is. All is empty, don’t be blinded by emptiness. Just pl...
by White Lotus
Sat May 16, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

So it goes beyond perception? I just nod to say yes or sleep when tired if I can. I do or don’t raise my hands. Sometimes it rains. I have no idea what I am talking about; that’s why I am Talking. Mind talks when it wants to. Is there no right or wrong? I don’t know. Is there Zen Mind? I don’t know....
by White Lotus
Sat May 16, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Is “consciousness” called “Zen Mind”?
by White Lotus
Fri May 15, 2020 9:01 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

When grasping has ceased then there is a forgetting about self and no self. Non duality is forgotten too A place without many views! Grasping only ceases where self feeling has ceased. Where there Is no self experience there is no conscious grasping. It isn’t even consciously unconscious. No name ne...
by White Lotus
Fri May 15, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Suzuki talks about killing the 5sensory consciousnesses, killing the manovijnana where sensory data is processed then mamas and alayavijnana cease. The most effective means I can think of ceasing the grasping of objects is to eliminate the self feeling in the universe and within. If there is no self...
by White Lotus
Fri May 15, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Lastly what is consciousness and how is it transcended? Rgds Tom x
:popcorn:
by White Lotus
Tue May 12, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

Lastly, enlightened ignorance? Still a nest to become attached to?

Ignorance is knowledge of any kind about enlightenment?

Rgds, Tom x
by White Lotus
Tue May 12, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Can you forget everything?
Replies: 63
Views: 3155

Re: Can you forget everything?

I appreciate what you are saying. We remember our forgetfulness until we forget it. We forget self no self.
We forget real illusory. We know unknowing. We understand no understanding. We are left with emptiness
But tend to forget that too.
by White Lotus
Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions
Replies: 50
Views: 6726

Re: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions

We live in illusion and the appearance of things. do we? There is a reality. is there? We are that reality. are we? When you understand this, i thought we had to go beyond this. you see that you are nothing, nothing is still something and being nothing, you are everything. ego? That is all. -Kalu R...
by White Lotus
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions
Replies: 50
Views: 6726

Re: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions

Master Muni-la, thank you for you'r teaching, :anjali: :hug: Self learns there is no self while seeing other as real = self. Self sees real other races, real other religions, real other gender in real world... as results of karmic apprehended imprints-stains. i don't have a view on whats real or fal...
by White Lotus
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions
Replies: 50
Views: 6726

Re: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions

Last Legend, i have a question to ask you. its not a test, its just something i don,t know: why do people say 'naturally liberated' when they still have suffering? if i know awareness etc or buji zen, i may say i am liberated. how can this be if i still suffer? if i suffer, i am not liberated. if i ...
by White Lotus
Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions
Replies: 50
Views: 6726

Re: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions

You still think like everyone else and not abandon thinking? yes, judgement is thinking, its necessary to think. i think like you do. there's nothing special here. if i had to give up thought/judgement i would be trapped by dharma. i would be mindless... not very helpful. awareness has its value, s...
by White Lotus
Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions
Replies: 50
Views: 6726

Re: Progress of Insight in Zen Traditions

Mind of sentient beings and enlightened beings are not different. It’s how we use it. If use correctly, it’s wisdom. It’s all Upaya to empty nature, from here we cultivate wisdom? yes, Mind of sentient beings and enlightened beings is not different, nor is it the same. there is no wisdom, nor is th...

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