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by Astus
Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:44 pm
Forum: Soto
Topic: NOT another Jhana Thread
Replies: 7
Views: 242

Re: NOT another Jhana Thread

I mean if one was sitting in Zazen and specifically Shikantaza how would one be able to rely upon or validate ones experience? There are two sides here. First, the typical answer is that it is for the teacher to validate the disciple. As it is stated in the Platform Sutra : “That was acceptable bef...
by Astus
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:15 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: NOT another Jhana Thread
Replies: 7
Views: 242

Re: NOT another Jhana Thread

I have seen reference at times to Shikantaza being likened to the Fourth Jhana - can someone elucidate the rationale for this please? There can be three reasons for that assumption: not understanding shikantaza, not understanding dhyanas, not understanding either. If it's the first one, then one mi...
by Astus
Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:21 pm
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Relative vs. Ultimate Truth
Replies: 2
Views: 246

Re: Relative vs. Ultimate Truth

I just want to check if I'm thinking in the right direction. The conventional/relative truth is whatever is held as valid by people, or simply dependent origination. The ultimate truth is the absence of substance, i.e. emptiness. So, unlike in your file, inter-dependence is the relative truth, caus...
by Astus
Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:56 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Can you practice without a teacher?
Replies: 11
Views: 377

Re: Can you practice without a teacher?

Dogen writes: "If you want to study the supreme Buddhist Truth, you have to visit excellent Buddhist masters in far-off China. Reflect upon the vigorous road that is far beyond intellectual thinking. If you cannot find a true master, it is better not to study at all." ( Gakudo Yojin Shu ) Brad Warne...
by Astus
Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:24 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

is it clear if the schools you're talking about are distinguishing between the 'knowing' related to dualistic mind or to the 'knowing' related to non-conceptual, direct cognition? Both might be called 'knowing' but the latter is not a conceptual view. Knowing/awareness 知 is a specific term here, an...
by Astus
Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:53 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

One more quote: Zongmi “Even during delusion there is Knowing. Knowing from the outset is non-delusion. Even the arising of thoughts is Knowing, [but] Knowing from the outset is no mindfulness , up to and including: [at the locus wherein] pity, joy, happiness, hatred, love, and dislike [appear] one...
by Astus
Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

The translation nuance for that second one is huge, though. Is 念 the word normally used for smrti? Yes, 念 is the word normally used for smṛti. E.g. 正念 saṃyaksmṛti,念佛 buddhānusmṛti, 念安般 ānāpānasmṛti, 四念處 catvārismṛtyupasthānāni. However, that is not the word's exclusive meaning, so it is not that st...
by Astus
Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

No-mindfulness is often spoke of in Chan terms. I think you maybe mean "no-mind". Zen is about having no conditioned mind. It does teach mindfulness -- namely, mindfulness of ones nature, stability in unconditioned mind. I believe Zongmi is one of the worthies that used the term no-mindfulness. no-...
by Astus
Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:26 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

As I have mentioned before, it is because you have assumed that dependent arising is identical to temporal causality. There is no atemporal causality, as effect must follow cause. If it is not causality, then there is neither dependence, nor origination. That's why it can only be temporal causality...
by Astus
Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:16 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

I repeat, you are stating something that I have addressed early in this discussion. The only place you seem to have addressed this was on page 9 . There you state that the ultimate is both functional and impermanent. Such a statement actually turns the ultimate into the relative. If you do not addr...
by Astus
Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

I can tell you that it is not a blank, wordless state. ... Wisdom begins to function without the obstruction of discursive mind. If there is no discursive mind, there are no words, no concepts, no comprehension. How is it not a wordless state then? It is not that thoughts are bad. It is that they c...
by Astus
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:44 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

It always seems to me that trying to talk about the ultimate is sort of a waste of time. What is the point? The ultimate is what one wants to achieve, to understand, to become. An ultimate existence is the false belief in a self, and as such it needs to be clarified and seen through in order to be ...
by Astus
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:06 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

That is because you have assumed the ultimate as something permanent and unchanging. Something is either permanent or impermanent. If the proposed ultimate is impermanent, why even call it the ultimate? If you may respond that it is not something, then it is necessarily nothing, in which case it do...
by Astus
Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:30 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

It still does not mean that there is ultimately no natural state of any sort. That sounds like an argument for an invisible elephant in a room where no elephant is found. I was arguing for an ultimate reality which is the source for our illusory relative reality. An ultimate cannot cause a relative...
by Astus
Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:06 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

Sherab wrote:And your point is?
It is about what Malcolm mentioned: when there is nothing that ceases, it is not annihilation.
by Astus
Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:32 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

There is "no existence in a cessation of which we can describe its nonexistence" (Sutta Nipatta). Thus there is nothing left over, positive or negative. I could not find your quotation in Sutta Nipata. The matter of what happens after death to a liberated one is discussed in several suttas: Yamaka ...
by Astus
Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:12 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: buddhas and sex
Replies: 14
Views: 626

Re: buddhas and sex

One of the 32 major marks is the retracted male organ.
by Astus
Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:56 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

it is unskillful to use words that results in logical contradiction What contradiction? A passages from Mazu: "Not obliterating the conditioned; not dwelling in the unconditioned. The conditioned is the function of the unconditioned; the unconditioned is the essence of the conditioned." (Sun-Face B...
by Astus
Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:09 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

Are you arguing that the emptiness of emptiness is therefore superfluous, irrelevant or over-reaching in meaning, etc.? There can be over 20 categories of emptiness , including emptiness of emptiness. The reason behind that is to clarify that there are no exceptions, everything is without an essenc...
by Astus
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:09 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan Zen
Replies: 344
Views: 12373

Re: Tibetan Zen

When something is dependently arisen, it implies that the something is not unconditioned. If you assert that emptiness is dependent arising or dependent co-arising, and if you also assert that emptiness is empty as well, then you would be implying that emptiness is not unconditioned. Your reply did...