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by Astus
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 12
Views: 434

Re: doctrinal unity

(admittedly this is a bit of a stretch ;) ) It is. “No dependence on words and letters;” = “the absence of grasping at concepts” That may fit, unless one reads it with the previous line and takes it to mean rejecting doctrines and scriptures. “Direct pointing to the mind of man;” = “directly percei...
by Astus
Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:13 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 12
Views: 434

Re: doctrinal unity

clyde wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:47 pm
This was summarized by Bodhidharma, the First Zen Patriarch:
A special transmission outside the scriptures;
No dependence on words and letters;
Direct pointing to the mind of man;
Seeing into one's nature and attaining Buddhahood.
How does that quatrain match with what I wrote?
by Astus
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 736

Re: proclaiming awakening

clyde wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:19 pm
We read this of the Buddha and other Buddhist teachers in the suttas, sutras, and other ancient texts.
Apart from the Buddha himself, who do you know of who proclaimed their attainment, especially in front of lay people?
by Astus
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 736

Re: proclaiming awakening

Why don’t living Buddhist teachers do the same? Or are none of them enlightened? Because such a claim is basically counterproductive. It only deepens the divide between teacher and student, strengthens unrealistic expectations, and generates an unhealthy personality cult. On the other hand, saying ...
by Astus
Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:37 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 736

Re: proclaiming awakening

The Buddha’s affirmation wasn’t merely claiming that the path was true It's not the Buddha's claim, it is the tradition's claim, the disciples' validation of themselves by asserting the trustworthiness of their teacher. I don’t believe that all Buddhist teachers are enlightened regardless of their ...
by Astus
Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:28 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 12
Views: 434

Re: doctrinal unity

there are practices and teachings that differentiate Zen from other Buddhist (and non-Buddhist) traditions and define the Zen tradition, yes? What are those unique teachings and practices? Kanna Zen is likely the most unique element, and it encompasses almost everything one can associate with the g...
by Astus
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 12
Views: 434

Re: doctrinal unity

Anders wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:22 am
Is this needed?
No. It's actually the point that Zen does not mean a specific teaching or method.
by Astus
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:58 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Reliance on a master
Replies: 5
Views: 278

Re: Reliance on a master

Rion wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:25 am
Can anyone explain the contradiction?
There are some significant differences between traditions in terms of how the Buddha is conceived.

You might want to check Guang Xing's study The Concept of the Buddha: Its Evolution from Early Buddhism to the Trikāya Theory as a little background info.
by Astus
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:53 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 736

Re: proclaiming awakening

The Buddha proclaimed The regular affirmation of the Buddha's enlightenment all over the sutras is not really about what he claimed but about affirming Buddhism as true. That is why you can find that statements about the Buddha come to be grander and grander as you go from the Nikayas towards the T...
by Astus
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:39 am
Forum: Pure Land
Topic: The 'Democracy' of the Pure Land Path
Replies: 3
Views: 202

Re: The 'Democracy' of the Pure Land Path

Buddhism of Wisdom & Faith: Pure Land Principles and Practice It is a democratic method that empowers its adherents, freeing them from arcane metaphysics as well as dependence on teachers, gurus, roshis and other mediating authority figures That is a half-truth. There are still teachers in the vari...
by Astus
Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Purify a disease
Replies: 24
Views: 457

Re: Purify a disease

What I meant was the general idea of cause and effect of leper. Cula-kammavibhanga talks more about five precepts and the transgressions. Leprosy is an illness that can turn one ugly, hence look at the causes of those two: anger and ill-temper. Since we do not know what type of unwholesome deed cau...
by Astus
Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 12
Views: 434

Re: doctrinal unity

While there are differences in doctrinal emphasis (and practices) between the lineages, I think there is a fair degree of doctrinal unity. What I meant is the absence of a requirement to comply with a specific set of doctrines within the various organisations. It can be said that there is a fair de...
by Astus
Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Purify a disease
Replies: 24
Views: 457

Re: Purify a disease

If we do not know the precise cause and result, can we at least know the general idea? Of course, there are such descriptions, see: Cula-kammavibhanga Sutta Then why in order to counteract the karma of leper is inconceivable? What's already done is done, it cannot be changed. What one can do is to ...
by Astus
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:35 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5031

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

Zen, the tradition, is a religious institution (or institutions) Zen is a very loose term applied to a chain of concepts within East Asian Buddhism. Institutionally it has always existed within the framework of the monastic tradition, and to that added its main defining idea of lineages. and as suc...
by Astus
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5031

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

Of course, no doubt about that, but it is very wise to check back with the teacher in order to not go astray. This is the danger of doing it by oneself alone, as I see it. It is good to check ones understanding with a teacher, a real person, to avoid fooling oneself. According to Shengyan the prima...
by Astus
Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Purify a disease
Replies: 24
Views: 457

Re: Purify a disease

I am kind of fear I will develop the disease It seems that the disease you actually have is fear, so what could be treated is fear. what particular wholesome deed do I need to do to neutralize or counteract this particular disease, if any? You might want to look into some teachings on karma first: ...
by Astus
Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:22 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5031

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

Because without a teacher one must rely on one’s own faulty awareness as one’s guide. Unawareness will always interpret Dharma as something other than what it is. All practitioner must develop for oneself correct mindfulness (samyaksmrti) and wise attention (yonisomanaskara). But I think you mean r...
by Astus
Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5031

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

I defer to Zen teachers to define the “Zen tradition” and most (all?) Zen teachers hold that the tradition requires a living, face-to-face student-teacher relationship. So, a ‘true Zen student’ has a Zen teacher, which is why I consider myself a ‘student of Zen’ and not a Zen student. Every skill a...
by Astus
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:06 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5031

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

here is a quote from Dogen's Bendowa (emphasis is mine): practice the way of zazen under the guidance of a true teacher That means only one thing in Dogen's writing, himself. That is because he denies the realisation of all Buddhist teachers who brought the Dharma from China before him, and he view...
by Astus
Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5031

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

so, there is a difference between reading instructions in a book and receiving instructions directly from a teacher, isn't it!? Is there a difference between writing and speaking? "Since they maintain they have no need of written words, they should not speak either, because written words are merely...

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