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by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: On Buddhism and Nominalism
Replies: 50
Views: 4041

Re: On Buddhism and Nominalism

That dies not make Dharmas universals. A universal is cowness, for example. But the dharmas could be called universals for actual instances of experience, however, I don't know of anyone who conceived a theoretical list of dharmas existing separately from dharmas as experience, hence they are not u...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

If things were the way you say, there'd be no intelligible conversation between anyone. Not exactly. If it were the case that one could influence the other, then one could make the other understand. However, even the Buddha could not enlighten Ananda nor change the mind of Devadatta. I think your i...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:08 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

where did the "sheer coincidence" idea come into play from? If an experience is not a result of one's own doing, that means one can suffer the consequences of external causes and conditions. Those personally unrelated events were what I called coincidence, because anything can happen to anyone with...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: On Buddhism and Nominalism
Replies: 50
Views: 4041

Re: On Buddhism and Nominalism

All buddhist tenets (Sautrantika on up) apart from Sarvastivada, subscribe to Anya-apoha theory, which is the Buddhist refutation of truly existent universals. It's not a question if they take those dharmas as empty or not, but whether they are conceived as elements behind conventional appearances....
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

it ridiculous to say that we do not effect each other through the actions of our three doors, when we so glaringly obviously do. In other words, your view is that there are experiences that are independent of one's mental conditions (aka karma), that they happen to people because of sheer coinciden...
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:52 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: On Buddhism and Nominalism
Replies: 50
Views: 4041

Re: On Buddhism and Nominalism

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:03 pm
Only in Sarvastivada.
How so? Who says that conventional phenomena are not based on dharmas?
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:50 pm
We all live in a completely sealed and self-enclosed vacuum after all.
"Since the Buddhas have stated
That the world is conditioned by ignorance,
So why is it not reasonable [to assert]
That this world is [a result of] conceptualization?"

(Sixty Stanzas of Reasoning, v 37)
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

As I understand, its not that we share karma with our fellows, but I think its fair to conceive that beings have complementary karma - our friends influence our thoughts, words and actions. We hear what we "want" to hear, and listen to those who say things that we like, that way strengthening how w...
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:41 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:13 pm
The actions of white people in the past is ripening as anger against them.
That is not karma. If one is angry with another, that anger does not hurt the other person, it hurts the one who is angry. Furthermore, the anger is not caused by the other person, it is generated by one's own thinking.
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

At the moment in South Africa there's political parties calling for the killing of white people. Considering white South Africa's previous treatment of black people couldn't this be a case of collective karma ripening. It rather sounds like anger. "He abused me, he struck me, he overpowered me, he ...
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

Then, in this case, by analogy, the positive karma acquired by rejoicing in another one's meritorious deeds wouldn't result in vipaka similar to that of the doer? Agreeing with the actions of another is a mental, and possibly a verbal act, but not a bodily one. Because it strengthens a similar inte...
by Astus
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

This is talking about karma vipakka arising from our previous actions, it is not prove thatmy actions do not effect you. ... The fact that something needs to be endured (from others), is evidence of the effect (of others). If beings suffer/enjoy the consequences of their own actions, how could they...
by Astus
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

So you disagree with the Six Realms model then? No, why would I? Although the 5 realms model has its advantages. It is ridiculous to say that the actions of other's do not effect us. If I punch you in the head, believe me, it will effect you. For quite some time too. :smile: "Even though now I have...
by Astus
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

we know that our shared reality is formed as a consequence of our similar past actions. We also know that the actions of others effect us. No reality is shared, because experience is not shared. It is rather just conceptual categories that seem to create a shared world. Similarly, others' actions c...
by Astus
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

Mantrik wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:04 pm
the real debate is whether they share any vipaka or if that only arrives individually.
It's always an individual's decision, hence the consequences are individual as well. There is no such thing as a group mind.
by Astus
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

You think that a group of people acting together with a single goal cannot have similar or identical motivations? People can have numerous things in common and imagine there to be an identity based on seemingly shared attributes, but that will not make them identical, nor create a new sentient enti...
by Astus
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:10 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 52
Views: 701

Re: Collective karma

Karma is intentional action. Only beings have intention, not groups, hence there is no such thing as collective karma.
by Astus
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zazen and breathing
Replies: 38
Views: 1236

Re: Zazen and breathing

Tradition and living lineage is not the same thing. At least not in the sense that the pali canon uses the term. How so? A tradition that is still alive (and not, for instance, recreated or revived) means that it's been passed down through the generations. it more or less is. What does 'it' stand f...
by Astus
Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:27 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zazen and breathing
Replies: 38
Views: 1236

Re: Zazen and breathing

"some dude somewhere sat down and discovered this" Would you say the same of other beliefs, like the five elements and the forces of yin and yang? Then Zou Yan might be that "some dude". But there are several other "energy" views out there, so just as combination with Chinese concepts can be accept...
by Astus
Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:42 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zazen and breathing
Replies: 38
Views: 1236

Re: Zazen and breathing

I remember reading a Tiantai text that did teach it, I don't remember if it was by Zhiyi or someone else though. It recommended Zhiyi's six sounds as well as the movement of Qi around the body. Zhiyi taught the six sounds? They feature quite prominently in various texts about nourishing life practi...