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by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:54 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

You're skipping several steps. Going with the abhidharma model makes no difference, as the external factors are not experienced, only the resultant consciousness is what is registered at all. There the moments of sensory consciousnesses are meaningless, it is only with the processing of impressions...
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Queequeg wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:57 pm
What you are arguing is a philosophical point that presumes our subjective consciousness is some unique mystery.
The argument is regarding the subjective experience. Brain scans and biological analysis have nothing to do with it.
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

You equate the perception of an appearance with "having thoughts put into one's mind" Perception exists in consciousness. If one can make another's consciousness perceive something, that is no different from being able to put a thought into another's mind, as it means one can control another's mind...
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Queequeg wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:33 pm
No, it doesn't.
Why not? The mind stream consists of one momentary thought followed by another momentary thought. If there is a moment that is identical for two streams, it becomes the single cause of the following moment of thought, thus there is only one stream of thought left.
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

The material aggregate is defined as all physical sense organs and AND objects made of the four elements. There are both sense-faculties and sense-objects for all 6 sense-fields, and from their meeting arises the respective sense-consciousnesses. Or this can be looked at from the experiential persp...
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

of course there are shared sense fields, even if we experience them individually. As Malcolm said, what I meant was that things are experienced individually. What you see as light is not what I see as light. What you think as light is not what I think as light. Furthermore, you cannot even show me ...
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Malcolm wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:49 pm
the traces of other minds are sufficiently strong to generate appearances for ours.
Such a possibility would mean that one could put thoughts into another's mind, and if that could happen, then one stream of consciousness could cross another stream and become one.
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

So we are not interacting? We are interacting in our own minds. We each have the concept of communicating with another person, but it all happens within the scope of separate minds. Experience is individual, as there are no shared sense-fields, and the interpretation applied to experience is also i...
by Astus
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:30 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

We know that all appearances have the nature of illusion, but this does not mean that there are no appearances. Being illusion means it is conditioned by ignorance, it is distorted by mental habits, by karma. In other words, all beings experience what they project as the inner and outer world. That...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:14 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Yes, ultimately. But at the relative level? That's what we are talking about when it comes to Nirmanakaya. It does explain the relative level being a product of the mind. In the case of ordinary beings, experiences are what a deluded mind imagines out of ignorance. The nirmanakaya that is seen by b...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:42 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Ogyen wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:16 pm
We were talking about "coincidence" in the way you had posited
I simply put forward the reasons why no coincidence can happen, but that both good and bad experiences are the products of one's karma.
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

So how does learning happen then? What is the role of a Buddha if, as you posit, essentially there is no interaction and influence between beings? "If one wishes to see the Buddha, then one sees him. If one sees him, then one asks questions. If one asks, then one is answered, he hears the sutras an...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:22 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Is it your doing that you were raped? No! So is it a coincidence because it isn't your doing? Good and bad experiences are the result of good and bad deeds. That is the basic concept of how action and result work (see: Cūḷakammavibhaṅgasutta ). Furthermore, the results are not produced by someone e...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: On Buddhism and Nominalism
Replies: 50
Views: 4132

Re: On Buddhism and Nominalism

That dies not make Dharmas universals. A universal is cowness, for example. But the dharmas could be called universals for actual instances of experience, however, I don't know of anyone who conceived a theoretical list of dharmas existing separately from dharmas as experience, hence they are not u...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

If things were the way you say, there'd be no intelligible conversation between anyone. Not exactly. If it were the case that one could influence the other, then one could make the other understand. However, even the Buddha could not enlighten Ananda nor change the mind of Devadatta. I think your i...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:08 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

where did the "sheer coincidence" idea come into play from? If an experience is not a result of one's own doing, that means one can suffer the consequences of external causes and conditions. Those personally unrelated events were what I called coincidence, because anything can happen to anyone with...
by Astus
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: On Buddhism and Nominalism
Replies: 50
Views: 4132

Re: On Buddhism and Nominalism

All buddhist tenets (Sautrantika on up) apart from Sarvastivada, subscribe to Anya-apoha theory, which is the Buddhist refutation of truly existent universals. It's not a question if they take those dharmas as empty or not, but whether they are conceived as elements behind conventional appearances....
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

it ridiculous to say that we do not effect each other through the actions of our three doors, when we so glaringly obviously do. In other words, your view is that there are experiences that are independent of one's mental conditions (aka karma), that they happen to people because of sheer coinciden...
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:52 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: On Buddhism and Nominalism
Replies: 50
Views: 4132

Re: On Buddhism and Nominalism

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:03 pm
Only in Sarvastivada.
How so? Who says that conventional phenomena are not based on dharmas?
by Astus
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Collective karma
Replies: 96
Views: 1228

Re: Collective karma

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:50 pm
We all live in a completely sealed and self-enclosed vacuum after all.
"Since the Buddhas have stated
That the world is conditioned by ignorance,
So why is it not reasonable [to assert]
That this world is [a result of] conceptualization?"

(Sixty Stanzas of Reasoning, v 37)