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by Astus
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:55 pm
Forum: Sūtra Studies
Topic: Mahabheriharakaparivarta sutra
Replies: 2
Views: 89

Re: Mahabheriharakaparivarta sutra

White Lotus wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:02 pm
Does anyone here know where i can get an English translation of the Great Drum Sutra.
Sūtra of the Great Dharma Drum
by Astus
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Mahamudra
Topic: thoughts vs. emotions
Replies: 13
Views: 383

Re: thoughts vs. emotions

seems like establishing that all appearances are mind is the standard direction Yes, that it is. It should also be kept in mind that emotions fall under the category of samskara within the five aggregates, and under the mental concomitants (caitasika) within the abhidharma systems, often as primary...
by Astus
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Mahamudra
Topic: thoughts vs. emotions
Replies: 13
Views: 383

Re: thoughts vs. emotions

For the Mahamudra/Semde instructions which involve looking at the color, shape, coming and going etc. of thoughts, does one practice with what we term "emotions" in the same way? It could be said that when it comes to analysing appearances on the mental side, also called the moving mind, then gener...
by Astus
Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

If you don’t discriminate, how do you know what to write? If it is not defined what discrimination is, how could its appearance be identified? I'm asking you, because it seems I have a different view about discrimination than you do, so it'd be better if you could specify what you mean by it. If yo...
by Astus
Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

It’s what you are using right now at your mind. To read and write a lot of mental functions are used. Which one is discrimination? The role and function of discriminating consciousness is to perpetuate old habits and create new ones when it deludes you. In that case telling the difference between t...
by Astus
Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:22 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

I was told that discrimination and intention are two but as soon as there is discrimination intention immediately arises. What is discrimination then? The gist is habits created by consciousness and sustained over many lifetimes lumped together as self, ignorance, etc. Habits are not discrimination...
by Astus
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Discriminating consciousness has established itself as the mechanism that drives us. ... Consciousness within that mixed stated still arises in form of discriminating intention. The perception or thinking cannot be discriminating intention. Is discrimination then intention? Or is there intention an...
by Astus
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:21 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

At the state of ‘pure’ discriminating consciousness, you can stand witness to your unborn nature and that is non-discriminating knowing nature. Discrimination is the ability to tell the difference between things, it is perception, recognition. Or there has to be a difference between discrimination ...
by Astus
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Wisdom cannot be a thought (with intention) created by discriminating consciousness. Where does wisdom come from? I was told that consciousness changes constantly and because of that there is an open gap to enter great samadhi that’s through meditation practice. A gap between two moments of conscio...
by Astus
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:43 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Yes, if that falls under wisdom. No, by discrimination, there is attachment which there is self. If wisdom is already without attachment, then it cannot lead to freedom from attachment, only discrimination can. But if you deny that discrimination can lead to freedom, since we are left without any m...
by Astus
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:12 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Sure, but it’s the very thing that needs to be dessolved at the end. In its ‘pure’ state by itself is easy mistaken for realizing Buddha nature. This is often the case for practitioners. If there is correct discrimination, there is no mistake, and necessarily eliminates even the clinging to discrim...
by Astus
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Ok the discrimating consciousness is not clean, so it cannot be fully called wisdom as long as there is one end created by discrimating consciousness to lean on. It’s actually ignorance or attachment of self. Discrimination is part of the path, it is what takes one to the result. Exactly because on...
by Astus
Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Okay. What is making this statement if not discriminating mind? Discrimination is quite essential on the path. After all, it is only wisdom that can ultimately defeat ignorance. "The childish are attached to forms; The moderate attains detachment; By knowing the nature of forms, Those of supreme in...
by Astus
Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

Ok through eyes, mind that sees? Better not assume mind to be an actual agent. Rather follow the classic teaching: as a result of contact between the eye and visible object visual consciousness arises. I don’t think that is Zen. Stop grasping or grasping is still grasping to one end. Still discrimi...
by Astus
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

What mind that knows not to grasp? What that mind looks like when it doesn’t grasp? A mind that has learnt the Dharma knows that grasping ends in suffering. The mind does not have any look in the first place, regardless of the presence or absence of grasping. Even now there are things and beings on...
by Astus
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

What’s your take on that? It is standard Mahayana (non-abiding nirvana) glazed with dramatic metaphors. Don't grasp things, don't grasp the absence of things, don't make a concept of not grasping anything - thus you have the three gates, or three deaths. In the end, the story is always the same sin...
by Astus
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature
Replies: 34
Views: 575

Re: Mind consciousness, ignorance, and nature

How does Zen understand these things? Since Zen lacks a doctrinal system, it cannot be said it has any specific interpretation. Individual teachers may have. I’ve heard mind consciousness has to die once in order to pass through the gate of samsara. It refers to the cessation of manas, the relinqui...
by Astus
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: “Alone, seated atop the Great Mountain”
Replies: 1
Views: 145

Re: “Alone, seated atop the Great Mountain”

shanehanner wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:46 pm
Does anyone know the source of this quote? I’m pretty sure that’s the quote, or it’s something very similar.
A monk asked Baizhang, “What is extraordinary?” Baizhang said, “Sitting alone on the mountain.” The monk bowed; Baizhang then hit him.
(Blue Cliff Record, case 26, BDK ed, p 148)
by Astus
Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Bhavanga citta & ālayavijñāna
Replies: 3
Views: 190

Re: Bhavanga citta & ālayavijñāna

Are these two thought to be identical, and likewise, identical to tathāgatagarbha ? Alayavijnana is like bhavangacitta (a concept found mainly in Theravada commentaries, not the canon), both function as a basis for the continuation of a being and carries karma. Saying that the tathagatagarbha is wi...
by Astus
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Sūtra Studies
Topic: The Mahaparinirvana Sutra
Replies: 121
Views: 25042

Re: The Mahaparinirvana Sutra

I have made this comment on the slide I have prepared for this sutra The Nirvana Sutra is not controversial in Mahayana, and the ideas of permanence, bliss, self, and purity as characteristics of buddha-nature appear elsewhere too (e.g. Srimaladevi Sutra, ch 12; Unsurpassed Reliance Sutra , ch 3), ...

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