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dzogchungpa wrote:And, I might add, just as Nirvana is a band:

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That's just silly!

Nirvana is the ULTIMATE band!

Yes, but what about a suffering, consciously passed through with a proper motivation and context? Well... Let's say a Bodhisattva walked through one of the forest of razors commonly found in the hells, in order to reach and liberate some sentient beings trapped there. They would definitely suffer a...

One does prostrations to purify the body and traces of negative actions connected with the body. Yes I agree, but not through suffering. That was the main point I was trying to make. I have definitely both read in traditional texts and heard from teachers that the pain of prostrations is part of th...

Of course there is. No, the notion of Tapasya, is that suffering and austerities in itself, purifies Karma and delusions, and can even lead to liberation. This is makes no sense in a buddhist POV! Dude, tapas is an Indic word used by all the traditions. I thought it was a Spanish word for yummy fin...

Malcolm wrote:

Grigoris wrote:Prostration are not penance. It is not like you do them to suffer in order to ameliorate past negative actions.

One does prostrations to purify the body and traces of negative actions connected with the body.

Yes I agree, but not through suffering. That was the main point I was trying to make.

Prostrations are not penance. It is not like you do them to suffer, in order to ameliorate past negative actions. It is not an exercise in self-flagellation.

Look, ketogenic metabolism has some positive qualities, that is undeniable... BUT it's essential function is for the human body to be able to survive prolonged fasts (ie when food is not available at all) and periods where carbohydrates are not available. A normal diet includes fats AND carbohydrate...

I can agree to the virtue of unprocessed food! Raw honey, for example, is without a doubt a far superior food to table sugar. However, to see what is different about a fat-based diet, you must understand that sugar is sugar in the body whether it's from bread, an onion or candy. It will raise insul...

In the In the Bardo Thodol the Clear Light or Ground Luminosity occurs at the dissolution of the elements, this comes before Amitabha appears to the dead person on the ummmmmm... day!

Mantrik wrote:

Grigoris wrote:

Mantrik wrote:Let's hope it is measured by signs and not by number! lol

Or time, for that matter!

The sign I see is Ouroboros - time to stop eating your tail.

But it's so tasty!

You just need a text that explains what the signs are. Just to be clear: I am not being contrary, just trying to flesh out the subject. I am trying to understand here. The reality is that I am quite thick at times: I feel that the problem with this (having the text that explains the signs) is that ...

Mantrik wrote:Let's hope it is measured by signs and not by number! lol

Or time, for that matter!

I say white, you say black. I say black, you say white. If you think that my goal in this discussion, or any other, is just to oppose you, then you are sadly mistaken. I was just pointing out that your responses are habitually contrarian. No they are not! :tongue: I think you are reading something ...

Personal experience indicates to me that signs are better, and that they often come before one has done a complete number or time. It seems to me that no matter how you measure your progress, it can become a source of obstacles. I say white, you say black. I say black, you say white. If you think t...

Malcolm wrote:Personal experience indicates to me that signs are better, and that they often come before one has done a complete number or time.

It seems to me that no matter how you measure your progress, it can become a source of obstacles.

dzogchungpa wrote:Absolutely, especially in other practitioners!

In other COMPETING practitioners

Soma999 wrote:I am not againt ... But i prefer ...

I personaly like ...
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I prefer to "... Sometime i feel i can do ... i don't want to but i feel i ..., my attention ... i'm doing, ...

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I just try to listen to my teacher instead of my ego.

dzogchungpa wrote:What are the signs in the case of the ngondro practices? I don't recall seeing them described.

Ha, now instead of focusing on numbers you will be busy looking for the signs!

By not "hanging onto numbers" one runs the risk of drifting around aimlessly without a target or goal, spending too much or too little time on the activity, wasting one's time and energy wandering around in circles. Numbers, time, or signs. The latter is best. They are not mutually exclus...