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by Grigoris
Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:03 pm
Forum: Dharma Events
Topic: Loppon Ogyan Tanzin Rinpoche European Teaching Tour 2017
Replies: 27
Views: 696

Re: Loppon Ogyan Tanzin Rinpoche European Teaching Tour 2017

A small change of schedule for the July 11th – July 19th – Warszawa, Poland seminar.

Rinpoche will give the empowerment of his mind treasure of Kali Nagmo instead of Mahadeva.

Needless to say: I AM STOKED!!! :woohoo:
by Grigoris
Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:26 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Anonymous X wrote:Do you also think that the Avatamsaka Sutra is confused?
Do you think that phenomena are void? Do you think that phenomena have one nature and mind has another? Do you think that phenomena and mind are somehow seperate?
by Grigoris
Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:32 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Anonymous X wrote:Phenomenon, your experience, is unreal, it is empty and void. Mind's nature is Knowing.
I think that this is where you are confused.
by Grigoris
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:48 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

My point is that having seen the true nature and realising that everything derives from this, then everything becomes a means to realisation. The true nature of obstacles is, after all, identical to the true nature of the solution to these obstacles. That is what the Mahamudra teachings on "on...
by Grigoris
Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:02 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

EVERYTHING gets in the way. Integration is all but easy, Greg. I don't disagree that integration is difficult. I don't disagree in the slightest. My point is that having seen the true nature and realising that everything derives from this, then everything becomes a means to realisation. The true na...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Crazywisdom wrote:I'm seeing the denigration from your side. Honestly. I never said anything negative about the two stages. All I'm saying is it's another way. Maybe even a better way.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your statements.
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:25 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Malcolm wrote:CW is not talking about empowerments which introduce one to this or that yidam as a path.
I know that, but I am. I am continuing to explain my point.
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:25 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Greg, you do not know what you are talking about here. I am not saying this to put you down. I am saying this because you lack instructions. You appear to believe that Dzogchen is gussied up Mahāmudra. It isn't. You may be correct. I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary yet. If I do, I will...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:13 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Crazywisdom wrote:In this case the empowerment is not in a deity.
Was it ever???
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:07 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

So... having realized one's nature as the prerequisite one the engages in the guru's upadesha until the four visions appear on their own. To do that one has to remain speechless as a mute, etc. Different strokes for different folks... If one realised the nature of the deity during the empowerment t...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

There obstacles to the visionary experiences and those are sadhanas and mantras. Hogwash. They, like all phenomena, can be obstacles if you do not realise their essential nature, their source. In all seriousness the nyingthig and Yangti texts talk about remaining silent and motionless, stopping rec...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:42 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Crazywisdom wrote:What does Tilopa say about practicing Mahamudra? Cease prostrations and recitations. You are still waiting for Hogwarts.
Did you read the quote I posted?

Did you read my statement before answering, or are you just answering for the sake of answering?
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Malcolm wrote:
Grigoris wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
What is this "one source?"
A white guy in the sky with long hair and a bushy beard.


I thought as much.
Well you, being humorless, thought wrong.
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:33 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Crazywisdom wrote:There obstacles to the visionary experiences and those are sadhanas and mantras.
Hogwash. They, like all phenomena, can be obstacles if you do not realise their essential nature, their source.
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:26 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Rig pa and ma rig pa are opposites. Neither are the state of Dzogchen (the basis), per se. I don't disagree. But they both have the same source. This is the central teaching that is repeated continuously in the Kungyed Gyalpo: everything, EVERYTHING, has a single source. ONE SOURCE. What is this &q...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Surely, the point is not whether they may be integrated into a Dzogchen path, or are an obstruction to it - you know that applies to any daily activity and that sadhanas are no different from the perspective of integration. The issue you were both discussing is whether any of them is essential to r...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:07 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Cause and effect, samsara and nirvana arise from ignorance of our own state. There is neither samsara nor nirvana in the state of Dzogchen. IWith this view you are putting ignorance on the same level as Dzogchen and setting them up as polar opposites. That seems to me to be a fail of monumental pro...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Cause and effect, samsara and nirvana arise from ignorance of our own state. There is neither samsara nor nirvana in the state of Dzogchen. IWith this view you are putting ignorance on the same level as Dzogchen and setting them up as polar opposites. That seems to me to be a fail of monumental pro...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Oh mahasattva, listen! this is the explanation for doubts about the purpose. In countless past eons, since fortunate Atiyogins with devotion to me, All-Creating Bodhi, do not meditate a view, do not protect samayas, do not engage in activities, do not progress on a path, do not train on stages, do ...
by Grigoris
Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:02 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice
Replies: 212
Views: 6597

Re: Dzogchen Sadhana Practice

Can you tell where it does not fit? I was under the impression that all existence is nothing other Dzogchen, that there is nothing seperate to Dzogchen. So, what is the problem? If there is nothing separate, there is no one to practice anything. The questions you are bringing up happen when you don...

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