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by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 10
Views: 256

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

:D Come on Malcolm. Ok, just for a sport of it, I have one name for you: Aro Khyungchen Lingma - the originator of the terma, a lady who apparently lived in Tibet of Chogyam's imagination, in other words there is no lineage to this stuff. If you have doubts that Chogyam is teaching a load of BS, ch...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:53 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

Are we? No, we aren't. If you don't expose and remove dry rot, then your whole edifice collapses. If you expose it and remove it, the strength is retained and you can build on it. Again I agree. But what I see happening is that every time a teacher mentions the Vajrayana practice of pure vision... ...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Prayers and Aspirations
Topic: Prayer for Aurelia
Replies: 6
Views: 115

Re: Prayer for Aurelia

May Tara and many bodhisattvas & buddhas clarify her mind quickly! :bow: :bow: :bow: People suicide (assisted or not) every day, so why are we praying for her in particular? Is she a friend of yours? OM MANI PEME HUNG Isn't because she's suffering a good enough reason? You are suffering too. And so...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:16 pm
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I am just disagreeing with you and stating my viewpoint. You can like it, lump it, or ignore it, but resorting to ad hom logical fallacies in an attempt to negate it, is pretty weak and petty.
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:46 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

Surely 'depth of awareness' doesn't just mean information. I got the clear impression that he was basically trying to lead towards the advice, which I will state as an ad absurdum, that a female student should still regard her Guru as a Buddha and keep quiet about it while he is repeatedly raping h...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

No he doesnt. The Doc Togden name is a joke which came about because he claimed (as a joke) to be the reincarnation of Doc Holliday of OK Corral fame. If we are going to become indignant about Dharma practitioners who are not to our taste lets at least not make stuff up. There are videos out there ...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:08 pm
Of course you don't agree Greg. You never do, about anything.
Instead of engaging in ad hom logic fallacies, something which you are doing with increasing frequency nowadays, why don't you just come up with a counter to my interpretation? Why don't you try proving my interpretation wrong?
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: Prayers and Aspirations
Topic: Prayer for Aurelia
Replies: 6
Views: 115

Re: Prayer for Aurelia

The Netherlands RTL news published an article on yesterday about a 29 year-old woman who was approved for euthanasia for psychiatric reasons. Her euthanasia death by lethal injection is scheduled for January 26. The article states (google translated): Sarah has no terminal illness, but knows that s...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:36 am
And I have observed in the past that the Aro crew is most likely having more fun than we are...
I don't know dude, but the idea of hanging out (literally) naked with the two people in the Aro photo, is hardly my idea of having fun. :tongue:
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

This is a blanket statement that only people with clairvoyance have the right to exercise judgement about teachers not their own. I think this is one major point people find unconvincing. I disagree because he states: "...the depth of awareness or clairvoyance..." (emphasis is mine). I take this to...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:27 pm
I don't think that particular point is what people find unconvincing.
That is what I felt as being the main thrust of the letter. Is there something I missed?
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 70
Views: 2213

Re: New Rigpa letter

A message from Shenphen Dawa Rinpoche that seems to be referring to the current kerfuffle: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dudjomrimpoche/permalink/954458854709277/ Do any DW-ers find this convincing? I do not. Please help me understand how this is convincing. related discussion: https://dharmawhee...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Mantrik wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:57 pm
Mate, if I disparaged you as a woman I'd have personally clocked up all 14 root downfalls in this thread alone................give or take. ;)
:smile:
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

That's not an ad hom, but a description, I'm afraid, of how throughout this thread you have preferred to ignore what people actually wrote and their clear meaning and intention, and invented what you wish they had said, then imputed an intention from your invention, and shot them for it. Pot meet k...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

And it is also one reason why I generally discourage people from "becoming ngakpas." And I think that this is the tragic mistake you are making: You are confounding the external appearances, with the Ngakpa practices per se. Of course they are related, but... Instead of warning people about getting...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

And Malcolm believes that the efficacy of a practice is based on it's attractiveness? And yet others here condemn Aro gTer, for example, for increasing attractiveness (a little to kitsch for my taste, I admit). It seems that: Damned if you do, damned if you don't. BTW: all of us here are just offeri...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:46 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:26 pm
MiphamFan wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:27 pm
Greg just has something against the idea of calling it a "market".
Yup, it offends his anti-capitalist prejudices.
Oh look, an ad hom.
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:44 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

I don't imagine anything, institutionalised religions are part of society and societies organise around economy too. Tell me something i don't know. My objection has been towards the evaluation of practices in reference to their market value. I believe that this is irrelevant. For me the value of a ...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

market [mahr-kit] noun 1. an open place or a covered building where buyers and sellers convene for the sale of goods; a marketplace : a farmers' market. 2. a store for the sale of food: a meat market. 3. a meeting of people for selling and buying. If people want to reduce Dharma to halibut and haggl...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 161
Views: 2848

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Do you think he would regard making his living teaching dharma to Westerners as a degeneration, compared with the diverse role of Ngakpas of old in Tibet where he may have been called upon to perform much the same tasks as the village shaman and have much less time for teaching Dharma? I dunno. May...