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by Grigoris
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Malcolm wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:28 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm
So the Buddhist accounts define them as Buddhists, and the Nath accounts define them as Nath.
The Buddhist accounts predate the Nath accounts by some centuries, and this is irrefutable.
The written accounts. The oral accounts?

Yes, I know this is speculative.
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Dr. James Mallinson, an excellent Yoga scholar and Sanskritist of my acquaintance, writes about them here: https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/17972/1/Nath%20Sampradaya.FP.pdf Thank you for this. The popularity of the siddhas transcended sectarian boundaries, and the siddhas themselves appear from their leg...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Astus wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:13 pm
Stories and doctrines do not necessarily match.
Doctrines and reality do not necessarily match. ;)
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Nope.

What I can do, if somebody is genuinely interested, is inform them the next time the wang, lung and tri are being given and they can go and ask their questions in person. I am sure the teacher will be more than happy to answer them.
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:05 pm
I know of no legitimate practice of Shiva as a Buddhist yidam...
I do.
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:06 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

PSM wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:44 pm
To what extent is Shiva seen as having any level of realisation in this literature/lineages?
Tibetan Buddhist Shiva practices range from him being a mundane protector, to a Yidam.
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's going on in this video?
Replies: 17
Views: 508

Re: What's going on in this video?

One way to solve the mystery is to identify who the statue is.
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

The Naths are very late. The first mention of Goraksha is by the Indian Buddhist Pandita, Vibhūticandra in the early 13th century. There is no evidence that the siddhas you mention were Naths, since the earliest mention of all these figures is in Buddhist texts. I am going by the hagiographies and ...
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra
Replies: 41
Views: 1120

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

amanitamusc wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:28 pm
Sometimes it takes a while to leave one belief for another.Some people will blur them both together and feel
satisfied.
Ain't that the truth!
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by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's going on in this video?
Replies: 17
Views: 508

Re: What's going on in this video?

Norwegian wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:08 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:49 pm
Why don't you ask the producer of the video?
Why can't Lingpupa ask DW?
Where exactly did I say that he cannot ask DW?
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's going on in this video?
Replies: 17
Views: 508

Re: What's going on in this video?

Why don't you ask the producer of the video?
by Grigoris
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: Tulsi Gabbard
Replies: 65
Views: 1359

Re: Tulsi Gabbard

This thread has veered off-topic and fallen into the normal back-and-forth trading of veiled insults so...

If anybody has anything relevant to add to the discussion, please contact me.
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:02 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

Re: What is the nature of mind?

Can we get on with the discussion now that we have finished with the ad homs?

Thanks guys!
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

I may agree with one over the other, but that is just my conceptualising and dualising mind playing games. I will keep that in mind and ignore all of your comments then, since they are just the random mutterings of your mind and are not to be taken seriously on any level. Whereas your's are the tar...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Greg, you are not conversing in good faith. I am conversing in good faith and I feel that the example I gave is quite relevant. Christian also argue with each other on the basis of logic too. You should read some of the trinatairan vs non-trinatarian ( (Homoousianism and Arianism) debates. The Trin...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:24 pm
No, it is not merely an opinion. There is an entire Madhyamaka literature which definitively refutes the Yogācāra school in terms of citations and reasoning.
And the Catholics have a few things to say about Protestant and Orthodox Christians... :roll:
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:49 pm
According to all Indian Mādhyamikas, if someone's practice is based on the Yogacāra view, the latter will not achieve the path of seeing.
That is an opinion, not a fact.

An opinion that proved rather dangerous for the Jonangpa.
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

Re: Interesting excerpt from the (Hindu) Mahanirvana Tantra

In terms of philosophical positions, this assertion (that self-aware clarity is ultimate) does not go beyond Yogacāra. As a consequence, meditating from a perspective that holds that such self-aware clarity is ultimate leads to rebirth in the formless realms at best. So East Asian Chan and Zen prac...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What is the nature of mind?
Replies: 24
Views: 549

What is the nature of mind?

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:06 pm
This kind of self-awareness is rejected in Dzogchen teachings, since it does not go beyond the level of yogacāra and leads to the formless realms.
So, are you saying that Yogachara is not a valid path of liberation and that it only leads to rebirth in the formless realms?
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mind essence introduced in advaita and TB
Replies: 56
Views: 2249

Re: Mind essence introduced in advaita and TB

Since we are talking Mahasiddha's.Osho had a sweet tooth for Tilopa. :yinyang: https://www.amazon.com/Only-One-Sky-Tantric-Mahamudra/dp/0525474404 He had a sweet tooth for anything that would make him money... Osho the greatest non-buddhist master of all time :bow: One of the greatest modern spirit...

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