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by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Mantrik wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:57 pm
Mate, if I disparaged you as a woman I'd have personally clocked up all 14 root downfalls in this thread alone................give or take. ;)
:smile:
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

That's not an ad hom, but a description, I'm afraid, of how throughout this thread you have preferred to ignore what people actually wrote and their clear meaning and intention, and invented what you wish they had said, then imputed an intention from your invention, and shot them for it. Pot meet k...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

And it is also one reason why I generally discourage people from "becoming ngakpas." And I think that this is the tragic mistake you are making: You are confounding the external appearances, with the Ngakpa practices per se. Of course they are related, but... Instead of warning people about getting...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

And Malcolm believes that the efficacy of a practice is based on it's attractiveness? And yet others here condemn Aro gTer, for example, for increasing attractiveness (a little to kitsch for my taste, I admit). It seems that: Damned if you do, damned if you don't. BTW: all of us here are just offeri...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:46 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:26 pm
MiphamFan wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:27 pm
Greg just has something against the idea of calling it a "market".
Yup, it offends his anti-capitalist prejudices.
Oh look, an ad hom.
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:44 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

I don't imagine anything, institutionalised religions are part of society and societies organise around economy too. Tell me something i don't know. My objection has been towards the evaluation of practices in reference to their market value. I believe that this is irrelevant. For me the value of a ...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

market [mahr-kit] noun 1. an open place or a covered building where buyers and sellers convene for the sale of goods; a marketplace : a farmers' market. 2. a store for the sale of food: a meat market. 3. a meeting of people for selling and buying. If people want to reduce Dharma to halibut and haggl...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Do you think he would regard making his living teaching dharma to Westerners as a degeneration, compared with the diverse role of Ngakpas of old in Tibet where he may have been called upon to perform much the same tasks as the village shaman and have much less time for teaching Dharma? I dunno. May...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

I don't think anyone else has posted in support of your rather odd perspective, which seems not to accord with Ngakpa history. Clearly, spiritual services have always been in the marketplace for as long as there have been records. The 'village Ngakpa' would have been supported that way. I would say...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

You know you are in Kali Yuga when a discussion about "What it means to be a ngakpa" devolves into a debate about the marketability of the practices, the commodification of the Dharma. It is especially telling that it is an Acharya instigating this line of thought. That is some seriously sad shit. T...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Future
Replies: 82
Views: 2278

Re: The Future

WeiHan wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:47 am
Karma, we know. We want to know the specific karma needed so that there will have more buddhists in the future.
You are going to have to ask a Buddha that question.
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:24 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Future
Replies: 82
Views: 2278

Re: The Future

People have been saying whether one becomes a buddhist has something to do with the person's merit and karmic connection. So..I am wondering.... Buddhists and great masters have been liberating animals in huge number. Before being liberated, holy prayers, mantras and powerful aspirations have been ...
by Grigoris
Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:05 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

I agree with Malcolm that it makes sense - at least in part - to view a ngakpa's role in a Buddhist society in terms of the market. Well somebody tell these guys they are wasting/wasted their time trying to sell their products in the West since there is no market for them: e76c08920c0c3b963ba53aca4...
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Malcolm wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm
It leaves us with that fact that we do not need to learn rituals to keep from starving in the streets.
That I can agree with.
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

It leaves is with Western Ngakpa hobbyists who have the means and time to pursue their hobby because we live in a more prosperous part of the world than my guru did. And so the economics are less pressing. The implication being that somebody that does something as a hobby, is not as serious as one ...
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:50 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Now you'll have to excuse me while I go ding some non-marketable bells, mumble some incomprehensible nonsense and burn some foul smelling incense guaranteed to scare away even the most devout (and loaded) follower of the BuddhaDharma! :smile:
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:48 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

My point the whole time is this idea that somehow the practices have to cater to a market. Nobody has responded to my points above refuting this idea, instead preferring to rely on logic fallacies. Where did anyone assert 'the practices' have to cater to a market? I read Malcolm's comments as meani...
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

We should understand this. I understand this, I just believe it is not relevant to the Western context and should not be the primary reasoning/motivation behind us practicing in Ngkapa lineages (or not). The same reasoning could be applied to monastic traditions in the West too, since there is not ...
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:41 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: What it means to be a ngakpa
Replies: 122
Views: 1995

Re: What it means to be a ngakpa

Uh.....no. Just showing an example of the ludicrous end of the spectrum relating to those addicted to dressing up and LARP. They also have a six foot phurba so I'm clearly envious of their dedication to practice. Phurba envy? :smile: You really think I was trying to cite them as typical of all West...
by Grigoris
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Pagan Deity Propitiation by Dharma Siblings
Replies: 19
Views: 358

Re: Pagan Deity Propitiation by Dharma Siblings

I once asked Loppon Ogyan Tanzin Rinpoche about making offerings to a local protector here on the island where I live and he was cool about it. Gave some advice too. There is nothing "wrong" with making an offering to a local protector (in the same way that there is nothing "wrong" with making an of...