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by smcj
Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Why is Oral Sex Considered Sexual Misconduct?
Replies: 42
Views: 7220

Re: Why is Oral Sex Considered Sexual Misconduct?

I always thought it was based on something to do with the winds and channels. But I’m just guessing.
by smcj
Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

krodha wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:54 pm
smcj wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:08 pm
Saying it is separate and Real is just adding emphasis.
Is it though?
That’s how it is taught.
Once I become a Buddha I’ll let you know how it actually is—if I can find the words.
by smcj
Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

I have really come around to the Shentong presentation via the Kagyu presentation. If you’re really interested, Brunnhölzl’s “When Clouds Part” is an excellent read on the subject. He has a whole section with summaries of how various Karma Kagyu masters have interpreted Shentong over the centuries....
by smcj
Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

I do not believe that there is a definitive right way to put this. Ultimately the “other shore” is ineffable, and once you arrive the Dharma is just the words your boat was built from. I like Shentong because it says Reality has the positive qualities of Buddha Nature. There’s a version of Rangtong ...
by smcj
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:39 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Nine of these passages support your claim. Mine or smcj’s? smcj's...his claim that Dudjom R subordinates Dzogchen to sutrayāna madhyamaka of any kind. I do not claim that he “subordinates” Dzogchen at all. I claim he uses Great Madhyamaka/Shentong to declare the superiority of Dzogchen.
by smcj
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:18 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la
Replies: 174
Views: 24732

Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Anyone wants Rainbow body these days has to practice Guru Singhishwara. No, this is just standard Vajrayāna hyperbole. Even if you practice this, there is no guarantee of rainbow body. Rainbow body depends on the practitioner, not the practice. https://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=28741&sta...
by smcj
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:34 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

When I asked about followers of the Sakya tradition, Dezhung Rinpoché laughed and said they had to keep an open mind about the topic (dag snang dgos red) The first time I heard about was from Dezhung R. He was teaching at a Kalu R center, so I guess he thought it appropriate to do so. From what I c...
by smcj
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Is the “third turning” gzhan stong or just Yogācāra? Seems only Yogācāra is being referenced in the excerpt despite the assertion that his use of “third turning” is supposed to be a reference to gzhan song 3rd Turning can be interpreted as Mind Only or Empty of Other. Here Rinpoche is interpreting ...
by smcj
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 2084

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

You guys do know that beatings were common in pre-PRC monasteries, right?
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:00 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

...there's no distinction of rangtong and shentong in meditation on the natural state, only in choosing how much one feels one should say about it when teaching about it.
That's the only importance point to the whole discussion.
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

In his "Big Red Book" Dudjom R. explains that Dzogchen is superior specifically because it has the Great Madhyamaka/Shentong view. We have had that discussion before. It seems to me that what Dudjom Rinpoche is actually saying here is that the 2nd turning, aka Prajnaparamita, and the 3rd turning, a...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Page 300 of "The Big Red Book" in the chapter titled "Superiority of Atiyoga". Remember, he is not discussing sutra here. He is discussing Dzogchen and why it is superior to the lower 8 yanas. Also worthy of note is the fact that he says that Nagarjuna/2nd Turning and Asanga/3rd Turning are both con...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Dzogchen masters do not privilege sūtra views over Vajrayāna views -- this is a point you seem to have never understood. In his "Big Red Book" Dudjom R. explains that Dzogchen is superior specifically because it has the Great Madhyamaka/Shentong view. We have had that discussion before. I have quot...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Actually, the assertion that there is no basis is precisely the meaning of Dzogchen, Mahāmudra, and Prajñāpāramitā. With Prajnaparamita yes. With Mahamudra and Dzogchen it depends on who you talk to. Every Dzogchen master I've ever met or read has said that the views of Dzogchen, Mahamudra, and Pra...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Actually, the assertion that there is no basis is precisely the meaning of Dzogchen, Mahāmudra, and Prajñāpāramitā. With Prajnaparamita yes. With Mahamudra and Dzogchen it depends on who you talk to. In "Myriad Worlds" Kongtrul writes: What is the fundamental nature of the original primordial groun...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Chapter 9 of the Kunjed Gyalpo as per The Supreme Source goes so far as to say that "the vehicles based on the principle of cuase and effect" are tied more "to the external" and that "they are erroneous paths" in the sense that they display "an imperfect understanding of the condition of the indivi...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Mahamudra and Dzogchen
Replies: 63
Views: 2176

Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen

If something that is pure and perfect from very beginning, what is there one purifies? As an ill-informed dilettante, my idea is that "purifies" is a little misleading. Pristine consciousness is absolutely free. In fact it is so free that it can get tangled and constricted. That constriction, while...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Mahamudra and Dzogchen
Replies: 63
Views: 2176

Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen

If something that is pure and perfect from very beginning, what is there one purifies? As an ill-informed dilettante, my idea is that "purifies" is a little misleading. Pristine consciousness is absolutely free. In fact it is so free that it can get tangled and constricted. Think of a rope all snar...
by smcj
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 63
Views: 1564

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

There is no primordial state. You might want to make a somewhat more nuanced post than that. Perhaps try, "A classical Indian philosopher, such as Nagarjuna, would say such an idea is a Hindu heresy." Or perhaps, "That kind of idea crept into certain types of Dharma only late in the game due to a m...
by smcj
Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 749

Re: proclaiming awakening

Define "enlightenment" Define "samadhi" I think samadhi is a strong shamatha practice, being able to place your mind on a desired object at will without distractions or stupor for extended periods of time. I think enlightenment is the removal of limiting obscurations (karmic, emotional, habitual, i...

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