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by invisiblediamond
Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:19 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Not a comparative religion thread! Gods of other traditions?
Replies: 16
Views: 983

Re: Not a comparative religion thread! Gods of other traditi

This area of the world changed hands between rulers crazy often. Rulers just commissioned religions. It was the thing. So there was endless cross-pollination. All these groups are a mish mash of every other. All these differences and distinctions are meaningless. Actually, non duality doesn't refer ...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:22 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

Thinking for myself is preferable nonetheless. I agree all tantric elements have these aspects. So I'm seeing these in a new light. The phenomena I see is Buddhism collides with cultures and then subverts its fundamental notions. I agree DC and Z are incompat. It seems DC takes the fundamentals of ...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:49 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

OddiyanaIsIndia wrote:I see the core error of InvisibleDiamond.

He doesn't understand geography or borders of pre-1947 India.
I'm looking pre zero
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:08 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

There are all kinds of fascinating things. But mixing up Zoroastrianism with Dzogchen? Really, there is no solid basis for this. Do the Maya equate color and elements? I know of know other two groups who have this idea. They live in the same region. These are clearly coming from a common cultural r...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:07 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

They are missing the anthropological evidence so their text based analysis, since texts are dubious, sheds rather little light on what may or may not have really happened. I see, so what is your archaeological evidence to proves an Iranian source for certain aspects of Dzogchen, namely body of ligh...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

There are all kinds of fascinating things. But mixing up Zoroastrianism with Dzogchen? Really, there is no solid basis for this. Do the Maya equate color and elements? I know of know other two groups who have this idea. They live in the same region. These are clearly coming from a common cultural r...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:57 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

;) Ronald Davidson (Tibetan Renaissance), David Germano (several essays), and AW Barber (Buddhism in the Krishna Valley of Andhra) all say Dzogchen developed squarely within Buddhism. To posit a Persian influence is embarrassingly stupid. Thanks. They are missing the anthropological evidence so thei...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:54 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

It's fascinating. There are all kinds of fascinating things. But mixing up Zoroastrianism with Dzogchen? Really, there is no solid basis for this. Do the Maya equate color and elements? I know of know other two groups who have this idea. They live in the same region. These are clearly coming from a...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:51 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

I'm inferring from what the evidence shows. The similarities to Persian mysticism is unmistakeable. The evidence doesn't support the theory that this stuff is Buddhist without any outside influence other than Buddhists. The PreVedic tribes even share ideas with DC. I find this to be an impeachment ...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:45 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

Paul, with all due respect, this is a preposterous thing to for you to say. You engage in wild speculation and then claim to need to see evidence? I'm inferring from what the evidence shows. The similarities to Persian mysticism is unmistakeable. First, there is no Persian Mysticism. Parsis have no...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:43 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

InvisibleDiamond, You do realize Pakistan was a part of India until quite recently right??? Pakistan was FULL of Hindus, who slowly left during the events of Independence. Your comments are quite hurtful, insensitive, and most of all historically wrong. I'm tracing my roots here. These are my peopl...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:35 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

I need to see the evidence. . Paul, with all due respect, this is a preposterous thing to for you to say. You engage in wild speculation and then claim to need to see evidence? I'm inferring from what the evidence shows. The similarities to Persian mysticism is unmistakeable. The evidence doesn't s...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:01 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

InvisibleDiamond, You do realize Pakistan was a part of India until quite recently right??? Pakistan was FULL of Hindus, who slowly left during the events of Independence. Your comments are quite hurtful, insensitive, and most of all historically wrong. I'm tracing my roots here. These are my peopl...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:00 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

Woo-Chang, or Udyana. Monasteries, and Their Ways. Traces of Buddha. After crossing the river, (the travellers) immediately came to the kingdom of Woo-chang, which is indeed (a part) of North India. The people all use the language of Central India, “Central India” being what we should call the “Mid...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:28 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Great advice from by Phakchok Rinpoche
Replies: 11
Views: 775

Re: Great advice from by Phakchok Rinpoche

HH Taklung Matul Rinpoche is very wonderful also. He has undertaken the very difficult task of rebuilding their lineage central monastery in a very rugged part of Nepal where the people are very impoverished. He exhibits very extreme compassion. He is only in his thirties. He is one to watch. He goe...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:22 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Enlightenment and then what?
Replies: 26
Views: 1837

Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Do some texts say about what is happening with consciousness/mind which reaches liberation? We are mind there is no division between us and them we are all one one mind I practiced I am achieving realization I am illumined I liberate myself from samsara (...I do not exist? :D ) I am beyond death an...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:06 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

It would be difficult to pigeon-hole Swat as "culturally Indian." Then, as now, it had its distinct idiosyncrasies that made it seem a little far North of Indian. Woo-Chang, or Udyana. Monasteries, and Their Ways. Traces of Buddha. After crossing the river, (the travellers) immediately came to the ...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:49 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

It is well established that Odḍḍiyāna was well within the Indo-cultural sphere. We have many reports of Chinese pilgrims going through it and so on. As far as Burushaki goes: Although Burushaski has been compared to almost any language on earth, no fully convincing relationships have yet been estab...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:35 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

I've been looking at these Aryan tribals a lot recently. Check out the one braid look... http://wilfriedgeens.com/hp_scanDS_44181722266.jpg I saw a vid with an old shaman woman with only her two front teeth. With the one braid look in the front, scarily similar to Ekajati. It's like staring back int...
by invisiblediamond
Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:30 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Does Dzogchen have Persian or Zoroastrian influences?
Replies: 115
Views: 5672

Re: Dzogchen: Nongradual Buddhahood?

Simon E. wrote:
Lindama wrote:sky gazing... there is no inner most thought
Who is your Dzogchen teacher Lindama ?
Priests practicing Kshnoom, also apparently practice this. And facing the open sky is important to their ritual.