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by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:36 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Yes, Capriles made an small error, marked in red. Rig pa rang shar: "...is mounting the thirteenth stage, the wheel of letters. ..mounting the sixteenth stage, Highest Wisdom." Wheel of Letters is a synonym for Vajradhara. 16th bhumi is Tathagatha and even buddhas like vajradhara are not completely...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:22 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Concerning the levels (Skt., bhumi; Tib., sa), in the Atiyoga one single level (sa chikpa) is spoken of, as the practitioner is compared to a garuda bird that upon hatching is already fully developed:] Garudas stay in their primodial egg for almost ever before they hatch..... so all the parts are p...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:09 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Why is it that when the alpha male turns derogatory, the point is finally won? match set? Dzogchen, having no path Don't be an idiot, Kevin. Dzogchen has a path. That's true. Can you please comment on the other points from that post? This will help clear up some misunderstandings. Thanks, Kevin
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:04 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Why are there so many different teachings? Why are there so many different beings? So many different habits and flavors of desire... You make my point for me. The measurement is not what it measures. It is a conceptual device outside of the realization itself. Were this not true, then why so many di...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:59 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

home run, over the fence The context in which all Buddhist teachings occur is that of the sutric explanation of bhumis and paths, so it only makes sense that apologists for a particular viewpoint like Dzogchen will couch their defense in these terms, particularly when they have come in for harsh cri...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:57 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

double post removed
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:56 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Not derogatory, not a personal attack, but a debate on correctness of terminology, and if you cannot debate this you will never see the point the other side is making. Well Kevin I have my doubts that you know the difference between "sem" and "rigpa" if you want me to be serious. /magnus You are get...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:53 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Because you know what they say about girls?
Our bodies are better equipped for this.
We take dualism and make it the real deal.
lol

or should I say that would require a woman?

Malcolm wrote:
Benten wrote:actually they are both
why do you guys have to be so dualistic,

jk
You might ask yourself the same question, son.
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:46 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

good point its 15- love So, you have completed the bumis and attained the path of no-more learning now or will you do so instantaneously in the future? Just trying to understand how you and Virgo think this work Pero. /magnus Magnus, is this the question you are referring to? My apologies for not an...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:39 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

perfection is always instantaneous, so fast it accomplishes everything at once problem is the unless your 'at that point' its called perfecting or attempting Maybe so, but as far as I understand it, in Dzogchen they are completed instantly. No, that is the two accumulations. Well yes but in Practice...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:39 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

perfection is always instantaneous, so fast it accomplishes everything at once problem is the unless your 'at that point' its called perfecting or attempting Maybe so, but as far as I understand it, in Dzogchen they are completed instantly. No, that is the two accumulations. Well yes but in Practice...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:35 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

actually they are both why do you guys have to be so dualistic, jk The bhumis are various lessening gradations of *ignorance* Not so -- the bhumis are a progressive measurement of increasing qualities. Paths measure realization. The whole thing, however, beginning to end, is utterly illusory. Yes, I...
by Benten
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:31 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 17852

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

I'm curious as to why you kai, became condescending. You clearly owned the argument and the logic did not move him. Ad hominom, doest work well, but another angle may help. If rigpa dzogchen had no paths and stages then, every one would be an instant realizer with one single realization no? One tast...
by Benten
Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:24 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Begging, Panhandling & 8th Major Precept (Brahma Net Sutra)
Replies: 14
Views: 1994

Re: Begging, Panhandling & 8th Major Precept (Brahma Net Sut

My sister was homeles for years. Pretty much every penny that she and the people she hung out with went to drugs or alcohol. There was plenty of places in town to get free clothes and food, including fast food and grocery dumpters. They would get the guy with out a leg to take off his fake leg and s...
by Benten
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:58 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?
Replies: 121
Views: 10124

Re: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?

Your general pov is ok, but you should not spend so much energy conditioning other people. Because most will take what they have heard and seen and thought about and it will be colored by their preexisting habitual continuum and most quite often will turn what you have intended into something that ...
by Benten
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:49 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?
Replies: 121
Views: 10124

Re: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?

She is very Buddhist. Sometimes I wonder about those naughty vajrdharas and vajravidyas, they seem to me to either be enlightened emanations with a working agenda or some form of Harry Potters Sorting hat. Lots of stories of testers even of the muni as a Brahman Bodhisattva where his teacher told hi...
by Benten
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:20 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?
Replies: 121
Views: 10124

Re: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?

I have a friend who is hard core into her dzogchen continuum. I am constantly debating with her about Refuge and Bodhisattva vows. She gave back her intoxication vow to smoke marijuana. She accuses me of being puritanical and uses the arguments of everything is empty and spontaneously enlightened in...
by Benten
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:05 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?
Replies: 121
Views: 10124

Re: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?

I have a friend who comes from a Mongolian Shaman family. This use of psychoactive drugs in tantra is found in Mongolian shamanism if I understood correctly her response to When the Gods Drank Urine. Deviant dharma? I wonder about the use of psychoactive drugs in tantra; is this is not a form of Spi...
by Benten
Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:50 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?
Replies: 121
Views: 10124

Re: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?

I have heard that drugs cause winds to enter various channels creating their experiences. I think Garchen said it best 'people do drugs and alcohol so they do not think about their suffering.' High Yoga Tantra is more like a diamond surgical tool kit whilst awake than any sedative. I wonder about th...
by Benten
Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:42 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?
Replies: 121
Views: 10124

Re: Legalized Marijuana - will you smoke it?

I wonder about the use of psychoactive drugs in tantra; is this is not a form of Spiritual Materialism??? http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_writings1.shtml When the Gods Drank Urine A Tibetan myth may help solve the riddle of soma, sacred drug of ancient India I don't smoke weed or toba...

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