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by TRC
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

I just apply a higher standard of where the Dharma comes from. I prefer my Dharma uncompromised and uncorrupted, and there are just so many places where you can get it that way, why would you even bother with a sordid rotten to the core organisation like Rigpa? Good for you, you occupy the highest ...
by TRC
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Those that have been involved in the worst kind of victim blaming, IE Khenchen Namdrol, have now been placed in positions of guidance and authority within the organisation, what more reason do you need not to support them or attend Rigpa. There is no reason to support them, but there are still thou...
by TRC
Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:30 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Those that have been involved in the worst kind of victim blaming, IE Khenchen Namdrol, have now been placed in positions of guidance and authority within the organisation, what more reason do you need not to support them or attend Rigpa. They are denying abuse occurred and are instead blaming the v...
by TRC
Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

TRC wrote: ↑ Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:57 pm This gets back to the original point, do you want to attend Rigpa for teachings knowing they are still denying abuse occurred? If there were some teachings I really thought I needed being given by a lama I respected at a Rigpa center than I would go without hes...
by TRC
Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

No. I stated that this was a matter for the courts. However, no criminal complaint has brought been against the man so far. Well it appears you did, on p.18 and again on p.21 of this thread: Observing that it may be a compassionate outcome for a person to spend some time incarcerated for a crime th...
by TRC
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Frankly all this talk of jail time and punishment is hot air..its prapanca. This is not a comment on Sogyals abusive behaviour which has been severe and is surely beyond doubt. Its just a comment on the reality of the situation..There will be no jail time for anyone. There probably will be no succe...
by TRC
Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:57 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Well, you said: I'm guessing that means you want him to go to prison and would feel satisfaction if he does. I'm also guessing you understand that he would be suffering there, right? Exactly you are guessing. Where did I say I would be satisfied? Just to refresh people's memories. I'm not the only ...
by TRC
Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

These are concerns for people involved in the justice system. What do they have to do with practicing the Dharma? I've taken the Bodhisattva vow. After a few months of practice maybe I'm also prepared to say I "achieved tranquil abiding" or some such. But - next to calm abiding, which is like an an...
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:27 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

It's hardly a controversial statement - someone who has been accused of sexual and physical abuse should face the allegations, and if they are proven true, be punished. Except - around here, apparently. Where there are so many, I assume, feminists and other enlightened persons. I wonder how many po...
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Well I'm still waiting for you to pull up the quote where I said I would be rejoicing in Sogyal's suffering if he went to prison. Well, you said: I'm saying a long-life prayer for Sogyal so he can spend a bit of that time in prison. This would be the best and most compassionate outcome for him to h...
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:19 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

I think what was said, which apparently got everyone so breathless, was: Good points. I'm saying a long-life prayer for Sogyal so he can spend a bit of that time in prison. This would be the best and most compassionate outcome for him to help ripen that huge back log of negative karma, and good for...
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:08 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Well I'm still waiting for you to pull up the quote where I said I would be rejoicing in Sogyal's suffering if he went to prison.
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
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Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

So, if you're going to personally celebrate someone being "brought to justice", it's worth considering what exactly you are celebrating, and what you are not. I may be missing something, but who used the idea of celebrating or rejoicing? IMO that was definitely the tone of TRC's earlier post, but l...
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:03 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Please also point out where I said I would be rejoicing if Sogyal went to prison.
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:59 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Please point out where I said I wanted Sogyal to suffer.
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:32 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Apparently you can't be a Mahayana practitioner if you want to see the natural course of justice take place and see people face up to their criminal beahviour, but you can still be a Mahayana practitioner if you sexually, physically, spiritually and emotionally abuse people.
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Mahayana practitioners don't abuse any one either. But clearly they do or we would not be having this discussion. The answer is not to rush to punishment. The answer is to raise the awareness of would be Dharma students. To encourage caution when approaching teachers. To take our time. To keep our ...
by TRC
Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:04 am
TRC wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:06 pm
I'm saying a long-life prayer for Sogyal so he can spend a bit of that time in prison.
Mahāyāna practitioners do not pray for the incarceration of anyone.
Mahayana practitioners don't abuse any one either.
by TRC
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:06 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

Go if the teaching is important to you. Worst case scenario is that you sit quietly through a few prayers and don't talk to many other participants. But those other participants, even if they're in full river-in-Egypt mode, are also the abused in this situation, and dialogue can only help. And howe...
by TRC
Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:20 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations
Replies: 955
Views: 72448

Re: Very sad news: Letter to Sogyal Rinpoche / Abuse allegations

I think some of the folks here need to hang with some arrogant young Tulkus and then watch them fail at life over 20+ years. They are only as good as their training. If their heads are filled with pseudo-aristocratic misogyny and self importance creepy old men forcing girls one third their age into...

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