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by boda
Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.
Replies: 408
Views: 13332

Re: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.

This country has lost its f'in mind. http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article200763099.html Patterson said by phone Saturday that he considered finding a different raffle item after Wednesday’s mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, but ultimately decided to “turn it in...
by boda
Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

Worldly life and mundane concerns are meaningless. I think that's all that is being said. I believe that an honest claim would be that we value both mundane and religious or spiritual life, with some favoring one or the other. Monks, for example, would seem to favor the latter. The extreme polariza...
by boda
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:00 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:21 am
things have meaning until one discovers they don't.
Indeed, when one discovers that they no longer value that thing.
by boda
Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:50 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

We infuse everything we think, say, and do with meaning, but it is mostly misguided, pre-programmed, and/or habitual. And it is always reifying, meaning that in a Buddhist sense it must eventually be abandoned despite its temporarily expedient value on a transcendent path. I've pointed out that whe...
by boda
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

... from an ultimate perspective, when one asks, "how do things actually exist?" it is found that those relative truths are based on ignorance about how phenomena come into being. The "obscuring mind" is one that reifies phenomena, and one of the ways it does that is by imputing meaning. From an ul...
by boda
Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

We infuse everything we think, say, and do with meaning, but it is mostly misguided, pre-programmed, and/or habitual. And it is always reifying, meaning that in a Buddhist sense it must eventually be abandoned despite its temporarily expedient value on a transcendent path. I've pointed out that whe...
by boda
Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

unlike ultimate truth, relative truth (also called “truth for an obscuring mind” because it isn’t true) requires meanings to be imputed on conventional phenomena. Relative truth isn't false, it's relative . 1 + 1 = 3 is relative and false 1 + 1 = 2 is relative and true How can 1 + 1 = 2 be false be...
by boda
Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

Personally, I am glad life has no meaning -- it would be completely depressing if it did. I would have thought that one of the terrible events in this weeks news - the latest mass school shooting - is terrible because of what it means . And it’s also terrible because the perpertrator apparently did...
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:33 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

Emptiness is meaningful, at least it is to me. I don't see what there is to reconcile. Please explain that. How do you find emptiness meaningful? The concept obviously has meaning. I can imagine Sisyphus not feeling a lack of meaning if he realized it, to express it by way of contextual example.
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

the Buddhist-imputed concept of meaning is taught as a temporary raft to be released once the other shore is reached. It's an expedient to supersede mundane meaningfulness and meaninglessness, both of which perpetuate suffering. If one type of meaning perpetuates suffering and another type ends it,...
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

the Buddhist-imputed concept of meaning is taught as a temporary raft to be released once the other shore is reached. It's an expedient to supersede mundane meaningfulness and meaninglessness, both of which perpetuate suffering. If one type of meaning perpetuates suffering and another type ends it,...
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

Even for extremely experienced people, it can be a struggle to shift from seeking for meaning to practicing to relinquish attachments to such ideas. The topic has never been about this. Even newbies know that grasping BAD! Does it seem like a good idea to tell such a person that life is meaningless...
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:04 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

If life has meaning, then it would be meaningless to seek liberation from cyclic existence aka life. Can you explain why? My argument is based on the relationship between the purpose of the Dharma and the purpose of life. You neglect to define what "the purpose of life" is. In the absence of that d...
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:40 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

Even for extremely experienced people, it can be a struggle to shift from seeking for meaning to practicing to relinquish attachments to such ideas. The topic has never been about this. Even newbies know that grasping BAD! Does it seem like a good idea to tell such a person that life is meaningless...
by boda
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:11 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dog thread
Replies: 39
Views: 560

Re: Dog thread

Interesting mix. We had a Border Collie and he was a handful and a half! Never had a Lab but they seem very mellow. It is interesting. Seems to combine the best of both breeds: intelligence and energy of the collie, though dialed down a few clicks (and no herding behaviors). Affectionate, bonded na...
by boda
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Dharma Stories
Topic: Chogyam Trungpa
Replies: 19
Views: 758

Re: Chogyam Trungpa

This topic really has been done to death, but: before jumping to conclusions based on dramatic stories, look at his students. He developed a large number of very good, serious practitioners. Any understanding of what he did needs to start from there. Okay, let's start with his principle student Ose...
by boda
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: Dharma Stories
Topic: Chogyam Trungpa
Replies: 19
Views: 758

Re: Chogyam Trungpa

This topic really has been done to death, but: before jumping to conclusions based on dramatic stories, look at his students. He developed a large number of very good, serious practitioners. Any understanding of what he did needs to start from there. Okay, let's start with his principle student Ose...
by boda
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: What did you learn from the movies?
Replies: 50
Views: 783

Re: What did you learn from the movies?

I learned not to forget!

by boda
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:17 am
Forum: Dharma Stories
Topic: Chogyam Trungpa
Replies: 19
Views: 758

Re: Chogyam Trungpa

It's continually rehashed because as Merlin says, "It is the doom of men that they forget."

by boda
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:11 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman
Replies: 212
Views: 3348

Re: The Unbearable Lightness of Anatman

I've noticed lately that I get riled up on this forum more than anywhere, from just talking about things. I believe that is because I care about the subject matter on a deep level. Purely speculation but I think my exploration into *meaning* may have tempered my disposition more than anything else....