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by Jeff H
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

tobes wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:10 am
I've signed in for the first time in 3 or 4 years for this post, so, you know, I might respond on this thread, but then I sign out again.....
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In short: so much ado about method.

:anjali:
Thanks so much for adding this balanced perspective. :meditate:
by Jeff H
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

I think my references have directly addressed the original topic of this thread from a Gelug perspective. I think the problem with these debates is that each tradition’s teachings constitute a wholistic context, and if one does not make the effort to grasp that larger context, piecemeal debates can ...
by Jeff H
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

I would take this one step further to point out that, personally, I don’t think it matters in the least whether the historical Bhavaviveka actually held to truly existent nature, even unconsciously. In the context of Gelug training, the four tenet systems are used as a teaching method to illustrate ...
by Jeff H
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

Following on Bristollad's comment, in the matter of Svatantrika, I think Guy Newland presents a very understandable summary of what Tsongkhapa actually meant by his distinction between Svatantrika and Prasangika. Malcolm is quite right in his challenge for someone to produce a quote from Bhavaviveka...
by Jeff H
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:02 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

I should clarify: This encapsulates my understanding of how inherent existence is applied as a method in Tsongkhapa's lam rim. I want to know if people here believe this is wrong and/or misleading. I'm not asking about alternative ways to arrive at direct perception of emptiness, even if they might ...
by Jeff H
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:36 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

I'd like to offer this quote from Khensur Jampa Tegchok in Insight Into Emptiness . I think this is a good explanation of the Gelug argument from a directly authoritative source. It shows how this method is used to begin moving from an inferential to a direct understanding of emptiness by applying c...
by Jeff H
Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:26 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Learning Dzogchen online
Replies: 29
Views: 1172

Re: Learning Dzogchen online

Thanks! Can anyone help to recommend me other dzogchen teachings online? Please help me. Thanks. https://learn.wisdompubs.org/academy/courses/shamatha-vipashyana/ Intro course based on Dudjom Lingpa's Dzogchen Termas. Other courses are available though Alan Wallace in cooperation with Wisdom Public...
by Jeff H
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

I appreciate Jeff H's support but even his post seems to read that Tsongkhapa's teachings are okay for beginners but then we need to practise Mahamudra/Vajrayana/Dzogchen. Maybe I misunderstood your post Jeff, but you seemed to imply that you have to move on from Tsongkhapa's views but actually, hi...
by Jeff H
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

As an individual who spent many years practicing in Gelug sanghas I can offer the support that there is nothing invalid about the Gelug path. There is a unique interpretation of Madhyamika, and a unique approach to practice but those things are in no way representative of the isolationism and secta...
by Jeff H
Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

Tsongkhapafan’s position should be addressed by people who understand the arguments from both sides, not by people who categorical dismiss his right to speak by virtue of his association. Everyone has permission to write posts, but some members need their posts monitoring by Mods before they are pu...
by Jeff H
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka
Replies: 152
Views: 3852

Re: Mipham: Gelug = Svatantrika Madhyamaka

Thanks for this, Bristollad: Personally, I rely on His Holiness the Dalai Lama whose understanding of both Gelug and non-Gelug views and explanations of emptiness is far superior to mine. In Union of the Old and New Translation Schools which can be found in Kindness, Clarity and Insight , His Holine...
by Jeff H
Wed May 23, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.
Replies: 610
Views: 25382

Re: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.

Some more statistics here http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2018/may/21/gwen-graham/have-more-students-been-killed-schools-soldiers-co/ . "So far this year, more students have been killed in schools than soldiers in combat zones." Rated mostly true. Mostly true as a statement of numerica...
by Jeff H
Sun May 13, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: Trump's Movement to Unilateralism
Replies: 73
Views: 1933

Re: Trump's Movement to Unilateralism

Dorje Shedrub wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 10:47 am
Its obvious that he doesn't know what he is doing.
My worst fear is that maybe he actually does.
by Jeff H
Sun May 13, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Gelug
Topic: According to the Prasangika, what is wrong with statement that the two truths are two ways of looking at one object?
Replies: 31
Views: 1091

Re: According to the Prasangika, what is wrong with statement that the two truths are two ways of looking at one object?

What are you quoting that says there are truly existent and apparently existent phenomena? It was this passage: “All Buddhist tenet holders assert that whatever exists must be either a conventional or an ultimate truth, and that there is nothing which is both. Thus, conventional and ultimate truths...
by Jeff H
Tue May 08, 2018 2:48 pm
Forum: Gelug
Topic: According to the Prasangika, what is wrong with statement that the two truths are two ways of looking at one object?
Replies: 31
Views: 1091

Re: According to the Prasangika, what is wrong with statement that the two truths are two ways of looking at one object?

I think you need to share more of Hopkins’ context because, on the surface, what you are saying sounds correct. Perhaps he is making a different point. Geshe Tashi’s core teaching about the two truths is simply stated as one entity with different isolates. Isolates are explained as different connota...
by Jeff H
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Jim Jefferies Gun Control Bit
Replies: 5
Views: 277

Re: Jim Jefferies Gun Control Bit

I especially liked the comparison with taking away the rights of "responsible slave owners".
by Jeff H
Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Why samsara exists
Replies: 77
Views: 4415

Re: Why samsara exists

I heard Alan Wallace, backed up by Dudjom Lingpa*, give what seems to me like a marvelously succinct answer to this question on this podcast . What I quote below begins around 43:00. [Wallace reading from Vajra Essence by Dudjom Lingpa:]“It is not that conditioned consciousness must vanish into abso...
by Jeff H
Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: US and Allies Launch Strikes on Syria
Replies: 343
Views: 6431

Re: US and Allies Launch Strikes on Syria

People who do not meet the Buddha's path, no matter how good their karma is, are like a wasp in a jar. Where does the karma to meet the Buddha's path come from? Well, I am sure you have heard the Buddha's teaching that is more likely for a blind sea tortoise who rises to the surface of the ocean ev...
by Jeff H
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: US and Allies Launch Strikes on Syria
Replies: 343
Views: 6431

Re: US and Allies Launch Strikes on Syria

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:57 pm
People who do not meet the Buddha's path, no matter how good their karma is, are like a wasp in a jar.
Where does the karma to meet the Buddha's path come from?
by Jeff H
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: US and Allies Launch Strikes on Syria
Replies: 343
Views: 6431

Re: US and Allies Launch Strikes on Syria

If we painted our political discussions in terms of karma and its ripening, these conversations would be very different, not so much filled with blame of others as sadness that karma is unerring and foolish sentient beings continue to just build more negative karma over time unless they meet the Bu...

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