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by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

You speak with a forked tongue. This is predicted on your mistaken assumption that Buddhist and nonbuddhist traditions aim to climb the same mountain — that's why kyle termed you a perennialist I was tweaking the classic "paths up the mountain" image in a somewhat subversive way, not endorsing it as...
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Whereas what I am suggesting is more like an extension of the rimé approach to our contemporary globalized context. You explore different approaches while keeping an understanding of what is distinctive about each. And you may commit yourself especially to a particular tradition, as I have. This is...
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 2:25 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

This thread should have been put down weeks ago.
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Why Eastern Tibet?
Replies: 5
Views: 182

Re: Why Eastern Tibet?

Kathog, Dzogchen, Shechen, and Palyul are all in Eastern Tibet. The two Nyingma monasteries in Central Tibet are Mindrol Ling and Dorje Drak. The Geluk Hegemony in Central Tibet stifled the other three schools very heavily. In Kham there was more distance, and thus, more life for Sakya, Kagyu and N...
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 1:28 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 1:08 am


Cave men had no idea about God...
Are you quite sure? And how did you come to this astonishing conclusion?
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 12:54 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 12:49 am
Aryjna wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 8:58 pm
The point is, God, as seen by the Christians, does not exist, as can be proven by very basic logic
If you were evolved a million times more than you are now....would your logic be the same ?
Logic is logic, no matter how evolved one is, just as 2+2 = 4 in all math.
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 12:53 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Why Eastern Tibet?
Replies: 5
Views: 182

Re: Why Eastern Tibet?

Why are nearly all the contemporary Dzogchen masters known in the Western world, not to mention a large proportion of Nyingma and Kagyu lamas in general, from Eastern Tibet? Especially from the region of Kham, it seems. There are exceptions, but name a lama in one of these traditions and odds are t...
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 12:47 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

He's in good company when we look at what Buddhist tantrikas did from early on. No. Buddhist Vajrayāna, and even Mahāyāna, use of nonbuddhist figures was done in the context of conquest, domination and apppropiration, not fitting them pleasantly into a Buddhist scheme. The same applies to Tibetan c...
by Malcolm
Fri May 25, 2018 12:43 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

PSM wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 2:49 pm
Can refuge be taken in such figures if they are understood to be emanations and the Buddhist view is maintained?
No.
by Malcolm
Thu May 24, 2018 1:09 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

He's in good company when we look at what Buddhist tantrikas did from early on. No. Buddhist Vajrayāna, and even Mahāyāna, use of nonbuddhist figures was done in the context of conquest, domination and apppropiration, not fitting them pleasantly into a Buddhist scheme. The same applies to Tibetan c...
by Malcolm
Wed May 23, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

And suppose a formally Christian, Jewish, or whatever person does study Buddhist philosophy and then has a spontaneous realization of emptiness in their direct experience. not possible. now ask why. Actually, though. There are many people whose adherence to Christian doctrine, for example, is reall...
by Malcolm
Wed May 23, 2018 2:03 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Spelare wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 10:02 pm


And suppose a formally Christian, Jewish, or whatever person does study Buddhist philosophy and then has a spontaneous realization of emptiness in their direct experience.
not possible. now ask why.
by Malcolm
Tue May 22, 2018 1:35 am
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.
Replies: 599
Views: 23408

Re: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.

The second amendment was originally instituted in order ensure the right of southern militias to fetch escaped slaves. i always thought it was a snub towards the British who outlawed civilians to have guns during the revolution. Nope. It was an amendment designed to appease slave owners. https://ww...
by Malcolm
Mon May 21, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.
Replies: 599
Views: 23408

Re: deadliest mass shooting in the U.S.

The second amendment was originally instituted in order ensure the right of southern militias to fetch escaped slaves. I dunno, Greg. I mean, it seems like countries with greater gun constraints also have more constraints on other things, too. Aussies have more constraints on both guns and on the in...
by Malcolm
Sun May 20, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

And thus begins the program of interpreting sūtras and tantras according to what one wishes they said Malcolm, when I have to choose whom I trust, either you or the realized Tibetan masters from whom I have received teachings on phowa and the bardo, I choose the realized Tibetan masters. Deal with ...
by Malcolm
Sun May 20, 2018 1:58 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

PS: not saying it has to be interpreted this way, I'm just saying those passages don't neccessarily have to be taken literally. And thus begins the program of interpreting sūtras and tantras according to what one wishes they said, instead of what they actually say and what authentic masters such as...
by Malcolm
Sun May 20, 2018 1:55 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

All that was stated was that it will take millions of human years to attain buddhahood once one is reborn there, if one is an ordinary person. I understood you very clearly. And that is what I refuse to believe... Then you refuse to believe what sūtras say on the subject, and in that case, there is...
by Malcolm
Sat May 19, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Sorry guys, but all teachers from whom I have received Phowa and Bardo teachings agree that being led to a pure land is favourable to a human rebirth, including the passage by Thrangu Rinpoche I've quoted earlier: When we are about to be reborn and enter a new existence, it is best to close the doo...
by Malcolm
Sat May 19, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Yes, after millions and millions of human years have gone by. Why would it take millions and millions of years? http://www.kagyulibrary.hk/uploads/scripture/file/58-en.pdf This aspiration prayer also has information. According to the translation one kalpa is one day there. It is quadrillions of kal...
by Malcolm
Sat May 19, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?
Replies: 437
Views: 9473

Re: Quote by ChNNR about Dzogchen and God - where is it from?

Yes, after millions and millions of human years have gone by. Why would it take millions and millions of years? Have you any idea of how long a day in Sukhavati is in human years? One day in Sukhavati equals one kalpa of the Bhadrakalpa. In another simple explanation, there are four different lengt...