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by Malcolm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:40 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Some of Jax's stuff I see on FB from time to time seems pretty well spoken to me. I've been reading this thread wondering when he would come up. I'm curious if he now gets the same benefit of the doubt as the Aro folks? Just because I cast complete and total doubt on this fantasy that there is some...
by Malcolm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:32 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

...For example, Greg, who believes the Dharma is some timeless principle, like Plato's forms.... Is this in anyway related to what I understand to be a Hinayana view on matter and substance, that it reduces ultimately to "partless particles"? In any case, there are in addition to the Sutras already...
by Malcolm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

dzogchungpa wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
Some of Jax's stuff I see on FB from time to time seems pretty well spoken to me.
There is no accounting for taste.
by Malcolm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

:spy: Not saying anything. :spy: Well spoken, Ramana. ☺️ Doesn't 'well spoken' have a precise meaning? Sounds like it should have 'Ananda' appended and be Sutric. Not that Sutras are any more verifiable, but stylistically ...... The phrase has been used to justify accepting statements in non-Buddhi...
by Malcolm
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:24 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Karma Dorje said it already and so did I: If it conforms to the Four Dharma Seals then it is Dharma. So then you accept Advaita Vedanta as a valid path of realization leading to Buddhahood. :spy: Not saying anything. :spy: Yeah, so this really proves that people just believe whatever they want, wit...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:55 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

We've just covered this. The Dharma is impermanent, and subject to decay and destruction. It is seems funny to call something subject to decay and destruction "ultimate truth." No it is not. The conceptualised notion of Dharma is impermanent and subject to decay. If the Dharma was subject to change...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:41 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

There is no ultimate truth, ultimately. But go ahead and try to find it. Be my guest. The Dharma is the ultimate truth. That is why we take Refuge in it. We've just covered this. The Dharma is impermanent, and subject to decay and destruction. It is seems funny to call something subject to decay an...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

You have certainly offered nothing as an objective standard for how to know what to accept and what to reject. I don't think you are up to the challenge either. Karma Dorje said it already and so did I: If it conforms to the Four Dharma Seals then it is Dharma. So then you accept Advaita Vedanta as...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Yeah, but that's just your opinion, and since there is no authority (and no ultimate truth) then your opinion is as valid as that of a dribbling moron. That depends on whether in someone's opinion a dribbling moron's opinion is as valid as mine. I have seen all kinds of evidence that people take th...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:24 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

You really have to work on this new half-baked theory of yours. It is sadly lacking. You have certainly offered nothing as an objective standard for how to know what to accept and what to reject. I don't think you are up to the challenge either. There are plenty of Buddhists who think Krishnamurti ...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

To think that followers of any teaching can some how figure out if their teacher is bona fide is a joke. If one cannot figure out if teachers are bonafide, how can one figure out if the teaching is bonafide? You have neatly demonstrated how impossible it is to establish anything with appeals to aut...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:34 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: The regenerative potential of primordial state
Replies: 41
Views: 988

Re: The regenerative potential of primordial state

Could you please clarify as to whether, from your point of view, there are any differences between yeshe and rigpa, and if so what they are? Ye shes is a quality of rig pa. Thank you. Further, can one manifest yeshe without manifesting rigpa? What is it a about rigpa that is not captured by the ter...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: The regenerative potential of primordial state
Replies: 41
Views: 988

Re: The regenerative potential of primordial state

I am not doubting that many miraculous things are possible, and that folks that can do some miraculous things might choose not to call attention to them, but (just as an amusing aside) this is also a common excuse for not demonstrating powers by people who want to get credit for having them. And in...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: The regenerative potential of primordial state
Replies: 41
Views: 988

Re: The regenerative potential of primordial state

There are two levels of ye shes, pristine consciousness. The first level is the three pristine consciousnesses of the basis, essence, nature, and energy they are ultimate, unconditioned, etc. Then there are five relative pristine consciousnesses which are something like the rtsal of the basis, whic...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:41 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

A friend following this discussion, who does not have an account, sent me some interesting remarks by Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche: "Most people who consider themselves Buddhists do not tend to study what the Buddha himself taught, but instead just imitate one another. I don't know why it is but people jus...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

It is pretty simple -- there isn't the slightest bit of empirical evidence that from Mahāyāna onward any of these texts, sūtra and tantras, long oral lineage or short treasure lineage, were indeed spoken by the Buddha and so on. Based upon this, I really think the standard of accepting and rejecting...
by Malcolm
Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: The regenerative potential of primordial state
Replies: 41
Views: 988

Re: The regenerative potential of primordial state

... I personally have never witnessed such a miracle, and probably would not believe it even if I had. I asked a particular Rinpoche with whom I was well acquainted about such things once. He basically said that although such things are possible and with some pretty common, it was best not to do so...
by Malcolm
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Greg, if you are reading this thread still, what do you think of these two posts? does it follow that Chogyam's disciples are ngakpa/ngakma in the Dudjom Tersar line? Yeah, actually. Any takers for the question regarding Doc Chogyam's teachers? If I remember correctly, at different times he been me...
by Malcolm
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:13 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

No. But the only reason I brought up these two statements anyway, is to highlight your hypocrisy. I'm done with this thread. Well, glad you are satisfied. Now go do something more useful with your time than engaging in wild goose chases over true vs. false treasures. It seems not... https://dharmaw...
by Malcolm
Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 289
Views: 5466

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

BTW, our friend, Doc Togden, is from a recognized lineage too —— he is actually a Dudjom Tersar guy. I know a Bhutanese Khenpo, the teacher of some people here, for example, who attended Chogyam's Dudjom Tersar Troma Nagmo empowerment at Pema Osel Ling. Lama Tharchin certainly expressed no objectio...