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by Malcolm
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kyabgon Gongma Trichen Rinpoche is the Mind Emanation of Guru Rinpoche
Replies: 6
Views: 259

Re: Kyabgon Gongma Trichen Rinpoche is the Mind Emanation of Guru Rinpoche

Motova wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 am
Apparently so is Sogyal Lakar. :shrug:
Recognized by his mother, but not really enthroned, or recognized by anyone else as such.
by Malcolm
Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:23 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

Virgo wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:16 pm
heart wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:41 pm
I also want to say that I really disagree with the title of this thread, I would never post in such a thread.
Magnus, you just did.

Kevin...
He is referring to the fact that while I was writing my post, the other thread was locked.
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

Do what to remedy? Lets start by not pretending that everything advanced in the name of Vajrayāna actually corresponds with Vajrayāna Dharma on any level. Lets also stop pretending, in the name of "samaya," that bestowing empowerments is a free pass to abuse students, sexually, financially, and emo...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

I think we have to accept that these stories are a part of our Vajrayana heritage, all lineages included, and that they do have point. The point is generally lost on people who might come to Vajrayāna teachings, but lose faith in the Vajrayāna before they have even begun. Vajrayāna, after all, is p...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:11 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

Crazywisdom wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:10 pm
May the fat wallet lamas be the real deal.
Sadly, this is generally not the case.
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:10 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

I’m saying there’s too much finger pointing going on here. It’s enough to make this point. After a while the scale tips towards disparaging samaya holders. No, there is no finger pointing -- there is mere acknowledgement that we have a religious tradition which is in deep denial about harmful abuse...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

Apparently, you like the heat. Vajrakilaya tantras have some pointed things to say about this. My point is that if you do not like the conversation, you are not required to participate. The Tibetan tradition is not perfect, it has problems, mostly having to do with abuse of power, money, sexism, an...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

I am a little surprised at this discussion and several others recently. Vajrayana (including Dzogchen) is not really about finding a nice teacher that can teach you nice things, right? It is about recognising the natural state, decide on that and gain full realisation in the natural self liberation...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

I agree w HHST Glad we cleared that up. I’m saying there’s too much finger pointing going on here. It’s enough to make this point. After a while the scale tips towards disparaging samaya holders. No, there is no finger pointing -- there is mere acknowledgement that we have a religious tradition whi...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

Ok. Also keep in mind mantrins who hold samaya. Disparagers become the object of ritual slaying. Better make sure you can stab your wooden kīla into a rock before you attempt such feats. Otherwise, you just harm yourself. BTW, at Lamdre, recently, His Holiness Sakya Trizen 42 made it quite clear th...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

Ok. Also keep in mind mantrins who hold samaya. Disparagers become the object of ritual slaying. Better make sure you can stab your wooden kīla into a rock before you attempt such feats. Otherwise, you just harm yourself. BTW, at Lamdre, recently, His Holiness Sakya Trizen 42 made it quite clear th...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:32 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

There is way too much vajra guru slamming going on here. You all should know you’re walking on thin ice. Vajra gurus do not have the immunity of papal infallibility. If you do not like the heat... Apparently, you like the heat. Vajrakilaya tantras have some pointed things to say about this. My poin...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Karma, "soulmates" etc
Replies: 9
Views: 207

Re: Karma, "soulmates" etc

So, I'm curious what anyone's take, including the actual Buddhist official outlook is on "soul mates", chance encounters, predestined relationships and all that. My understanding is that our karma determines just about everything, so when we meet people it's due to our karma? But what exactly does ...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

And when they do come up, as in another thread, and when they're about certain contemporary teachers, Chatral Rinpoche in this case, In fact, I have a friend who is a close student of the late Chatral Rinpoche, who spent, over the years, many months at a time in close proximity to him. According to...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

Crazywisdom wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:42 pm
There is way too much vajra guru slamming going on here. You all should know you’re walking on thin ice.
Vajra gurus do not have the immunity of papal infallibility. If you do not like the heat...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

Re: What's the point of abusive gurus?

Kagyu bashing garbage. Pls shut up. No, Nathan, I am pointing out that 1) Tsang Nyon Herukas 15th century bio of Milarepa is just a religious novel, with little basis in fact. 2) That this narrative of Tilo/Naro being held up as the model of guru/disciple relationship is not healthy nor sound, sinc...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: What's the point of abusive gurus?
Replies: 73
Views: 1543

What's the point of abusive gurus?

I am a little surprised at this discussion and several others recently. Vajrayana (including Dzogchen) is not really about finding a nice teacher that can teach you nice things, right? It is about recognising the natural state, decide on that and gain full realisation in the natural self liberation...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:55 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

We're talking as if the branding of Jetsun Shuksep by Lama Pema Gyatsho was a great transgression and a crime against females. Having been Jetsun Shuksep's student in my last life and one of Her present Tulku's shabji for almost 20 years in this life, I don't see it that way. Just with Marpa and Mi...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:51 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

We're talking as if the branding of Jetsun Shuksep by Lama Pema Gyatsho was a great transgression and a crime against females. Having been Jetsun Shuksep's student in my last life and one of Her present Tulku's shabji for almost 20 years in this life, I don't see it that way. Just with Marpa and Mi...
by Malcolm
Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 243
Views: 7817

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

It was. If you don’t see that, you are not fit to call yourself a lama, much less teach Dharma to anyone. We're talking as if the branding of Jetsun Shuksep by Lama Pema Gyatsho was a great transgression and a crime against females. Having been Jetsun Shuksep's student in my last life and one of Her...

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