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by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:53 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment
Replies: 27
Views: 563

Re: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment

Lankavatara is old news in Chan as near as I can tell- supplanted. Nevertheless, the sudden approach comes from it. As far as I know, it’s generally accepted the Sudden approach originated with Zhu Daosheng and Zhi Daolin before the translation of the Lankavatara. And the Lanka although used in hag...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:48 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment
Replies: 27
Views: 563

Re: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment

Lankavatara is old news in Chan as near as I can tell- supplanted. Nevertheless, the sudden approach comes from it. Is dzogchen not ‘sudden’ then, since it has its own sources, or are there multiple origins for ‘sudden’ teachings? Dzogchen is not a sudden school. It argues that liberation does not ...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:41 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Dharma government?

pemachophel wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:28 pm
"May I emanate as endless Chakravartins
To fulfill the hopes of beings and guard the Dharma domain,
And, gaining dominion over all realms equaling space,
Establish all sentient beings in happiness."
Cakravartins conquer without force of arms.
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Dharma government?

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:44 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:38 pm
Dharma kings don't go on military campaigns.
In samsara they do.
Then they are not Dharma kings, just kings.
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Dharma government?

Abdicated his crown upon becoming a Buddhist: And afterwards, taking delight in the wisdom of the Elder, he handed over his kingdom to his son, and abandoning the household life for the houseless state, grew great in insight, and himself attained to Arahatship! The Milindapanha is not a historical ...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:37 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Dharma government?

So undeniably there have been and are attempts at Dharma government. In our tradition, Greg, there is a distinction between Mi chos, literally "human dharma," which principally involves secular ethics, and "Lha chos," higher Dharma. The former is not at all grounded in Buddhism on any level. The Ti...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment
Replies: 27
Views: 563

Re: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment

passel wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:12 pm
Lankavatara is old news in Chan as near as I can tell- supplanted.
Nevertheless, the sudden approach comes from it.
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:16 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Dharma government?

. As Buddhists you ought to understand that only Dharma will end the suffering. On an individual level, yes, but there is no such thing as a Dharma government. Nor could there be. Should I bring up the obvious example of Asoka? Or is it too obvious? Ashoka did not have a Dharma government. He was a...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: Buddhahood of Insentient Beings Exclusively East-Asian?
Replies: 27
Views: 394

Re: Buddhahood of Insentient Beings Exclusively East-Asian?

Queequeg wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:58 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:46 pm
Rocks have Buddhanature because they are integrated with Buddha. Rocks also have hell nature because they are integrated with beings suffering in hell.
I should add, Buddha has rock nature because Buddha is integrated with rock.
Sounds cool, but no.
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: Buddhahood of Insentient Beings Exclusively East-Asian?
Replies: 27
Views: 394

Re: Buddhahood of Insentient Beings Exclusively East-Asian?

The perfect-and-sudden [method of practicing cessation-and-contemplation] involves taking the true aspects [of reality] as the object What Zhiyi seems to be pointing out is that for Vasubandhu, the dharmadhatu, the phenomenal world, is a function of the Mind, and the various dharmas are actually me...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment
Replies: 27
Views: 563

Re: Dzogchen and Zen on enlightenment and post-enlightenment

That chan is sutra is a straw dog argument, however well founded in exalted traditional schemes. Sutra could be a suitable basis for Chan, but it’s not limited to sutra. Nor is Chan tantra; it is not deficient dzogchen either Sure it is. It is based on the sudden awakening approach exemplified in t...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:20 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: Buddhahood of Insentient Beings Exclusively East-Asian?
Replies: 27
Views: 394

Re: Buddhahood of Insentient Beings Exclusively East-Asian?

A dispute arose in Chinese Buddhism with regard to whether insentient beings possess a Buddha nature, but the view that Buddhahood exists as a potential in all things and phenomena prevailed in China. This idea also became widespread in Japan. (See also enlightenment of plants.) I am very intereste...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Who is America ?
Replies: 226
Views: 4320

Re: Who is America ?

Direct democracy does not scale. In New England, we also have direct democracy at the town level. But get to the county level, it begins to show signs of weakness. It does not scale in nation states. Direct democracy requires a confederate system to function properly. It can work within the context...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Who is America ?
Replies: 226
Views: 4320

Re: Who is America ?

Direct democracy does not scale. In New England, we also have direct democracy at the town level. But get to the county level, it begins to show signs of weakness. It does not scale in nation states. Direct democracy requires a confederate system to function properly. It can work within the context...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:20 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Who is America ?
Replies: 226
Views: 4320

Re: Who is America ?

Dan74 wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:29 pm

Down here, in this 'shit hole' of a country called Switzerland (thanks Amanita), we have the closest thing to a direct democracy
Direct democracy does not scale. In New England, we also have direct democracy at the town level. But get to the county level, it begins to show signs of weakness.
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Neo nazi's march in DC

There is nothing in Nagarjuna's counsel that suggests Buddhism should be a state-mandated religion. So your principle is not violated. I have never been impressed that Nagarjuna was an idealist. It was not Nāgārjuna's counsel I was rejecting, it was yours, "A dharma government would be one that ena...
by Malcolm
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:14 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 59
Views: 1422

Re: Existence

The Tibetans created a technical language to handle Buddhist terminologies. If I may, if the word 'emptiness' were not well established in English and you were doing a fresh translation, how would you translate tongpa nyi? Either in concise form or in more extensive explanation? I have read that th...
by Malcolm
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:04 pm
Forum: Language
Topic: HAM and A-shad
Replies: 7
Views: 136

Re: HAM and A-shad

I'm trying to clarify two references for visualizations. First the letter HAM: Someone at Tsegyalgar East said it looks like this: ཧྃ , but I found an old posting by Greg where he said it looks like this: ཧཱྃ . Which is correct? Second is an "A-shad" (or A-shay?): It is described as, "the final par...
by Malcolm
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharma government?
Replies: 19
Views: 213

Re: Neo nazi's march in DC

That is something up for debate, I think. Nagarjuna counseled a king on how to promote Dharma through government. A dharma government would be one that enabled dharma practice and dharma culture. One that creates the ideal conditions for Bodhisattvas to appear... like making bird houses and putting...
by Malcolm
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Who is America ?
Replies: 226
Views: 4320

Re: Who is America ?

Yes, fascists/alt-right are big on memes and that screenshot proves nothing. But your second comment is telling. I don't think most voters in the US thought about it this way, but the fact that all the various faults of Trump on full public display were not enough of a deal-breaker should be a huge...

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