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by tobes
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mixing Worldly and Dharma Paths
Replies: 35
Views: 889

Re: Mixing Worldly and Dharma Paths

This requires full engagement with others. It is the antithesis of this attitude that Buddhists should disengage and interact only with their own. Why would Buddhists only interact with "with their own"? This is certainly not in the teachings of the Buddha. /magnus The basis for this instruction an...
by tobes
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:58 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mixing Worldly and Dharma Paths
Replies: 35
Views: 889

Re: Mixing Worldly and Dharma Paths

Tobes... I appreciate the comment. For me it is all contextual. I imploded an academic career to make half scale, gain merit by teaching, and have time for practice. For me science has been a boon for practice. Other things in my OP are equally contextual. Absolutizing these things seems problemati...
by tobes
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mixing Worldly and Dharma Paths
Replies: 35
Views: 889

Re: Mixing Worldly and Dharma Paths

Really interesting and well considered question. I would distinguish between a/Living in a pluralistic situation and making good of that situation. b/Having a career/earning a livelihood. 'c/Being on a genuine Dharma path which is not affected by worldly concerns. Doing c properly does not imply rej...
by tobes
Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:03 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: On Generosity & Offerings
Replies: 56
Views: 1497

Re: On Generosity & Offerings

Before getting into buddhadharma I wanted to take part in one of the Diamond Way Buddhism retreat, but what kept me off was a strange feeling that it might not be the right thing and also lack of funds as DWB is quite a lot about da cash. And honestly I am glad, it kept me away from a lets say dubi...
by tobes
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: On Generosity & Offerings
Replies: 56
Views: 1497

Re: On Generosity & Offerings

If we're considering the western attitude here, it's probably worth remembering that when Luther nailed his theses to the door in 1517, it was born of his disgust at the Catholic Church charging for indulgences. That disgust turned into one of the biggest revolutions the world has ever seen, genera...
by tobes
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: On Generosity & Offerings
Replies: 56
Views: 1497

Re: On Generosity & Offerings

If we're considering the western attitude here, it's probably worth remembering that when Luther nailed his theses to the door in 1517, it was born of his disgust at the Catholic Church charging for indulgences. That disgust turned into one of the biggest revolutions the world has ever seen, generat...
by tobes
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tonglen vs chanting mani mantra
Replies: 6
Views: 338

Re: Tonglen vs chanting mani mantra

The previous posters were exactly right, and ideally you would combine the two. But thinking a bit more practically about it: When you have a bit more mental clarity/energy/vitality it is a good time to practice visualisation of Chenrezig and mantra recitation. When this is not possible because of t...
by tobes
Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

In classical philosophy, ‘intellect’ is what perceives the real nature of things. It is much more associated with Western philosophy, where it’s a translation for the seminal Greek word ‘nous’. (Although interestingly, if I enter the word ‘intellect’ in the online Sanskrit dictionary , the top entr...
by tobes
Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

How can "one" be real, and "everything else" not, which is then "things" are "negated"…….. by what? What sees this, what thinks this, what believes this? What experiences this? How can there be a real lasting self on its own? It would vanish when it is on its own!!! How is there "any kind of realit...
by tobes
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:27 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

how conventional reality is understood (and practiced), than it does how the ultimate is defined It is important to remember that the two truths in Mahayana are not opposites, nor parallels, but complementary. There is no ultimate apart from the conventional, no emptiness apart from appearances. On...
by tobes
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:11 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

What's at stake in this discussion though is this: that we Buddhists charge Vedantins with clinging to existence, in lieu of how Brahman is metaphysically described. I think if that is the assertion, one needs to genuinely enter into the metaphysical debates and make that case sufficiently. Particu...
by tobes
Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

What's at stake in this discussion though is this: that we Buddhists charge Vedantins with clinging to existence, in lieu of how Brahman is metaphysically described. I think if that is the assertion, one needs to genuinely enter into the metaphysical debates and make that case sufficiently. Particul...
by tobes
Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:40 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

smcj wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:19 am
But why not leave a space for: we don't actually know, and it doesn't particularly matter that we don't know.
That works for me!

But you can also add in “I don’t care” ’cause I like my buddhist practice.
:tongue:
True in my case as well.
by tobes
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:00 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

To cut to the chase here, is the fundamental Buddhist assertion on Vedantic realisation something like this: "it is not liberation, it is merely (something like) the 4th Jhana (or equivalent) and a therefore a cause for further rebirth?" If so, how is this a. known? b. established? How can we be so ...
by tobes
Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:04 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

hinges much more on how language is understood than it does metaphysics There are crucial ontological differences between Vedanta and any Buddhist (including Shentong) views. Vedanta holds consciousness an absolute, and rejects everything else. Mahamudra takes consciousness to be empty, and at the ...
by tobes
Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

I'm not really sure what this big difference really amounts to, in terms of yogic practice and its relationship to philosophical understanding. Simply this.Buddhadharma, including Kagyu is the path to liberation. Vedanta is eternalist and does not lead to liberation. Sure, as a good Buddhist I beli...
by tobes
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:22 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?
Replies: 296
Views: 6814

Re: Brahman and Atman in Kagyu?

Returning to the fundamental question of the thread: I am now very inclined to the view that the difference between Kagyu Mahamudra and what Vedanta teaches about ultimate reality hinges much more on how language is understood than it does metaphysics - although these do run together in various ways...
by tobes
Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: On Generosity & Offerings
Replies: 56
Views: 1497

Re: On Generosity & Offerings

My point is that you're taking dana to be purely material. It's not - that is merely the coarsest expression of it. So you may be overlooking immaterial forms of generosity; these are inherenly hard to see, because generally we cannot know other people's intentions and mental events. Moreover, the e...
by tobes
Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: On Generosity & Offerings
Replies: 56
Views: 1497

Re: On Generosity & Offerings

Surely the counter logic holds just as well and is just as relevant to the problem? i.e. if you have the karma to receive something, then so it is ipso facto , nothing more required. When auspicious things ripen, they just do. Doesn't mean you shouldn't pay or offer, but nor does it mean you should...
by tobes
Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:22 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Is relative truth nullified in higher stages of Chan / Zen?
Replies: 20
Views: 635

Re: Is relative truth nullified in higher stages of Chan / Zen?

In the ox herding pictures, the higher stage represented by the enso seems to suggest the nullification of relative truth.

BUT.....then - in the representation of the next even higher stage - the practitioner returns to the marketplace.

I think this tells us everything we need to know.

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