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by PD4U
Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:56 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka
Replies: 38
Views: 4634

Re: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka

A wonderful achievement but the rainbow body can be achieved by practising the two stages of Highest Yoga Tantra. Maybe this is what he was practising. It would be more typically Gelug. Would it be fair to say, from the perspective of the result, that practising the two stages of Highest Yoga Tantr...
by PD4U
Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:38 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka
Replies: 38
Views: 4634

Re: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka

Lopon Tenzin Namdak gives a great explanation in Bonpo Dzogchen Teachings on why chittamatra, madhyamaka, mahamudra, and the various levels of tantra are negated by Dzogchen. It's very interesting indeed. Strictly speaking these views are not negated by Dzogchen. Dzogchen is considered beyond these...
by PD4U
Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:47 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka
Replies: 38
Views: 4634

Re: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka

I remember posting in a thread called: "Gelug View of Dzogchen?", my point was that Khenpo Achos a Gelugpa Abbot achieved rainbow body. The person I was talking with is a Gelugpa monk at Sera Je, so you'd probably enjoy reading it: Topic: http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=10207&start=...
by PD4U
Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:40 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka
Replies: 38
Views: 4634

Re: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka

See bookzz.org: Bönpo Dzogchen Teachings , Lopon Tenzin Namdak [link to pirated version of book deleted - Mod] pp. 115-116: "Madhyamaka ask: How can you Dzogchenpas do better than this? Your Dzogchen is not even Buddhism. To this, the Dzogchenpa replies: We do not recognize the subject/object dicho...
by PD4U
Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:13 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka
Replies: 38
Views: 4634

Re: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka

Long story short,the Dzogchen approach is also considered to be not identical to that of tantra. Lopon Tenzin Namdak gives a great explanation in Bonpo Dzogchen Teachings on why chittamatra, madhyamaka, mahamudra, and the various levels of tantra are negated by Dzogchen. It's very interesting indee...
by PD4U
Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:06 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka
Replies: 38
Views: 4634

Re: Dzogchen and Tsongkhapa Madhyamaka

What would that mean with respect to Dzogchen, then? They discard Gelug Madhyamaka at the Dzogchen level? From a gelug or prasangika madhyamaka point of view the view of dzogchen is refuted, but from the dzogchen point of view prasangika madhyamaka is not refuted. On the contrary: it is considered ...
by PD4U
Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:48 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Madhyamika & Yogacara: Which Was Popular First?
Replies: 4
Views: 1037

Re: Madhyamika & Yogacara: Which Was Popular First?

I would be interested in a definition of "popular". Does popular mean 'held by many as the definative view' or 'realized by many as the definative view'... Since (Prasangika) Madhyamaka was, and is, often interpreted as 'negativism' or even as 'nihilism', and is criticised because it "underpervades"...
by PD4U
Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:48 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Tibetan names
Replies: 105
Views: 60913

Re: Tibetan names

kalden yungdrung wrote: Nice name and welcome aboard. :namaste:
If and only if that state is realized. So for the moment better call me bönyi "jumping" döntog. :tongue:
by PD4U
Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:03 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Wholesome and Unwholesome in Dzogchen
Replies: 180
Views: 11858

Re: Wholesome and Unwholesome in Dzogchen

The idea svasaṃvedana takes itself as an object is an problematic conclusion. There is not much evidence that this is what the term means in those systems that use it. That's what I said: it makes it circulair (a sword that cuts itself) and it leads to an infinite regression (what part of the mind ...
by PD4U
Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:17 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Tibetan names
Replies: 105
Views: 60913

Re: Tibetan names

BÖNYI DÖNTOG : Realization of the Natural State
by PD4U
Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:02 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Wholesome and Unwholesome in Dzogchen
Replies: 180
Views: 11858

Re: Wholesome and Unwholesome in Dzogchen

The term svasaṃvedana does not mean "self-aware," it means that knowing is an intrinsic capacity for the mind to does not depend on an external object, in contradistinction to the Vaibhashika and Sautrantika contention that an instance of knowing depends on an object and a sense organ to arise. Sva...
by PD4U
Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:01 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Wholesome and Unwholesome in Dzogchen
Replies: 180
Views: 11858

Re: Wholesome and Unwholesome in Dzogchen

Malcolm wrote: You should read this:

http://blogs.dickinson.edu/buddhistethi ... ein001.pdf
See also:
The Reflexive Nature of Awareness: A Tibetan Madhyamaka Defence, Paul Williams
http://bookzz.org/book/2080374/183754
by PD4U
Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:34 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Can you practice Tibetan Buddhism without ever had a Guru?
Replies: 93
Views: 10071

Re: Can you practice Tibetan Buddhism without ever had a Gur

From: Liquid Gold Vomited from the Stomach of a Dog "Even if you don't know what to meditate on, Simply seeing it as something unattainable, (Although not as if you'd thrown something away), Is to see into the foundations of the mind." http://documents.mx/documents/nine-diamonds-9-tibetan-dzogchen-m...

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