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by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

We've gandharvas in the bardo. Are we gandharvas now? Silly questions, I know.
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:50 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools
Replies: 80
Views: 1751

Re: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools

#beingtagged I want to apologize. I said something stupid and perhaps inadverdently hurtful. I said it here: It's all because of that cursèd Jacqueline Stone and her terrible, horrible, no good, very bad book called Original Enlightenment in which she mangles the Mahāyānaśraddhotpādaśāstra. Rory sa...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

Here is another silly question, if I will be forgiven, is the 'subtle body', and entrance into it or the state of it, or death, what have you, it's own form of 'embodiment' or otherwise rebirth in a subtle body?
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

Pardon my ignorance if i havn't read the former posts clearly enough. But do we have a subtle body in the bardo that resembles the human body with had in the life we just departed? I think: "Being projected by the same action that projects the pūrvakālabhava, an intermediate being has the form of t...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

What I find striking is that there is no mention of any of the later schools as being, amongst them, various specifically Mahāyāna schools. No mention, as far as I have noticed as of yet. That's not a bad thing, per se. That's not ill-speech or anything of the like, but there isn't a widespread kno...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

And what is the relation of the "it eats smells" etymology?
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

Yes. Then the depictions of gandharvāni or gandharvāḥ as somewhat angelic wingèd people playing instruments is Indic fancy? No, there are two kinds of gandharvas, one, a type of demigod, the other, a name for a bardo being. If you will humour me the endless questions of a youngster, why these two k...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:28 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

This is because we are a gandharva (although my previous question in the previous post still stands, I am much more ignorant than I might try to appear, much much more) . I read about these in the Pāli Canon. In EBT studies, there is a somewhat wave-making article by the Venerable Śrāvaka Anālayo e...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

"Being projected by the same action that projects the pūrvakālabhava, an intermediate being has the form of this being." <-- does this mean that, for the sake of example, a being to be embodied as a cat has something of a form of a cat in the bardo? Or an asura, to use a more conventional example? ...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

We're dead, so I am assuming that the sense-media, in their traditional understanding, either do not apply or apply very differently. Which consciousnesses are operative before embodiment? all, since we have complete aggregates, sense bases, and sense elements in the bardo. This is because we are a...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:41 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

all, since we have complete aggregates, sense bases, and sense elements in the bardo. Is there form in the bardo? There is a subtle body. See the Kosha. Chapter three, near the beginning. mṛtyupapattibhavayorantarā bhavatīha yaḥ| gamyadeśānupetatvānnopapanno'ntarābhavaḥ|| Intermediate existence, wh...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Re: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

We're dead, so I am assuming that the sense-media, in their traditional understanding, either do not apply or apply very differently. Which consciousnesses are operative before embodiment? all, since we have complete aggregates, sense bases, and sense elements in the bardo. Is there form in the bar...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:03 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?
Replies: 20
Views: 291

Which consciousnesses exist in the bardo?

We're dead, so I am assuming that the sense-media, in their traditional understanding, either do not apply or apply very differently.

Which consciousnesses are operative before embodiment?
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The Antiquity and Novelty of the Lotus Sūtra
Replies: 0
Views: 38

The Antiquity and Novelty of the Lotus Sūtra

This is a thread for gathering information on both antique and innovative elements that can be found in the Saddharmapuṇḍarīkasūtra. There are scholars that have .... { i am no expert in this and this is like foggy layman interpretation from stuff i read } ....written that it is impossible for Sakya...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:18 pm
Forum: Language
Topic: Namo Gurubhya Pronounciation?
Replies: 10
Views: 288

Re: Namo Gurubhya Pronounciation?

How do you pronounce Namo Gurubhya? Na-mo Goo-roo-byah? Na-mo Goo-roo-bay? Na-mo Goo-roo-bay-ah? How? Do you know IPA? nəmo gurubʰjə Three syllables. The ə is a mid-central vowel, or a schwa. Click the ə here . The "J" is pronounced like the y in "gra b y our umbrella". The B is aspirated. Chances ...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools
Replies: 80
Views: 1751

Re: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools

Seishin wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:53 am
Tiantai was influenced by Vijñānavāda, but was far more influenced by Madhyamaka to the point where many will say that Tiantai IS Madhyamaka
:good:
by Coëmgenu
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:33 am
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools
Replies: 80
Views: 1751

Re: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools

"A fox is basically a dog." :buddha1: Indeed. At this point I see the exchange as: "Ven Zhiyi doesn't hold cittamātra views. Here's some substantiating evidence ". "Remember that the founders of Tiantai and Huayan schools are Chinese monks who have made a Chinese Buddhism. Chinese Buddhism is citta...
by Coëmgenu
Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools
Replies: 80
Views: 1751

Re: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools

Do you mean you may need to do better, both the origin of the Chinese Tiantai, Huayan schools, and the history of Mahayana Buddhism? Good idea indeed. :rolling: About the teaching of 'subject to arising conditioned by mind' 心緣起法 in the Samyukta sutra, see also p. 105 in the book ( The Fundamental T...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools
Replies: 80
Views: 1751

Re: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools

One sentient being, one mind, one man, to the exception of others, who dreams up solely and on his own, or thinks up, all creation, is iśvaranirmāṇadṛṣṭi, theism. Remember that the founders of Tiantai and Huayan schools are Chinese monks who have made a Chinese Buddhism. These two home-grown school...
by Coëmgenu
Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools
Replies: 80
Views: 1751

Re: The doctrinal establishment of a Chinese Buddhism: TianTai and HuaYan schoools

More importantly, think, if I and you and X and Y and this computer and your chair are all merely manifestations of the absolute mind in thought, then after we die, we will be permanent, everlasting, eternal, and imperishable. Or perhaps we are just that, merely temporary manifestations, like waves ...

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