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by Kenneth Chan
Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:45 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
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Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

All of us need thing to believe in. So text for the non-believers: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/anj8gTfoYBpWJMpdm/quantum-mechanics-nothing-to-do-with-consciousness However, lets do a few more experiments. Repeat the previous one, except that the scientist is sleeping in front of the dial. No in...
by Kenneth Chan
Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:23 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

I dont know about Von Neumann, now every physician knows that consciousness has nothing to do with wave collapse... You shoukd update your sources and read technical books, not Internet articles. Again, it's an observer-independent theory. No consciousness needed. No mind needed. That's is clear in...
by Kenneth Chan
Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:54 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

So, or we assume machines and measurement tools have mind/consciousness or we must presume that is NOT consciousness or mind what provokes the collapse of quantum fields. It's measurement, which is, in the end, interaction with other particles, that's the way it's measured. There would be a machine...
by Kenneth Chan
Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:42 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

I think there's a big misunderstanding here about what "observer" means in quantum mechanics. Here seems to be taken as "consciosness" or "mind" or "people looking at it" for many, but that's wrong. In quantum mechanics "observed" means "measur...
by Kenneth Chan
Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:06 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Yogacara is not a form of solipsism. The doctrine of dependent origination prevents it. Thus, beings in the same realms of existence will agree on their experiences of that realm, including beings within the same realm having subgroups. Enlightened beings will also agree on their enlightened experi...
by Kenneth Chan
Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:24 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
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Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Yogacara has better implications with quantum physics, specifically Heisenberg's uncertainty principle: The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that it is impossible to simultaneously know the exact position and momentum of a subatomic particle. The more precisely one measures one of these prop...
by Kenneth Chan
Thu May 11, 2023 5:35 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
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Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

In my opinion, its even better for you to separate your current article into three parts, the first one emphasizing on attacking the position of materialism followed by demonstrating the absurdity of the position taken Eternalists like the theists and Samkhya adherents in the second one and leading...
by Kenneth Chan
Thu May 11, 2023 7:42 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

One doesn't need to read things like "How to go to the moon with a boat" see they wont have a fruitful result; I explained my misgivings, and you did not venture to engage with any part of my reasoning, all you did was deny my conclusion. Natusake, you do not even know what it is you are ...
by Kenneth Chan
Thu May 11, 2023 4:18 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Madhyamika philosophy does more than just pacify. It establishes the wisdom that we need to realise directly in order to be freed from samsara. You're just splitting hairs at this point. Wisdom is the pacification of affliction. But, if you would like to further split hairs: Madhyamika pacifies pro...
by Kenneth Chan
Thu May 11, 2023 3:53 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
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Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

I don't see anything you said as incompatible with my point about Madhyamika. To clarify, I am not saying Madhyamika doesn't provide insights; just nothing unique to physics itself. It does what it was meant to do regardless of where it is applied. Namely, it pacifies. The ultimate truth that Madhy...
by Kenneth Chan
Thu May 11, 2023 12:24 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

The problem is two-pronged. First, why have you settled on this interpretation among many as if it were cold hard fact? The second is, among the many interpretations, it seems like we could simply apply whatever Madhyamika-like dialectics we like, since Madhyamika was simply designed to cut off con...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 11:05 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Kenneth, you have consistently stated, I think misleadingly, that the basic formulation of quantum mechanics says that there is a conscious observer. This is simply not true. Quantum mechanics itself does not say what a 'measurement' is, that is a problem of interpretation. If Madhyamika does indee...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 6:28 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Physicists don't want to accept this because, if we include consciousness in quantum physics, and try to fit it into the preconceived philosophical framework of a mind-matter duality, it ends up with solipsism. And physicists can't live with that. Pretty sure they can accept. Not all physicists are...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 10:36 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

If the collapse of the wave function simply occured by itself, then obviously a conscious observer is not required. Thats a drawable conclusion from the former observation, not hypothesis. But the notion that "the collapse of the wave function simply occured by itself" is NOT an observati...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 10:33 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

The superimposition of various wavefunction under fourier transform results in a delta function which mathematically represents a physical localised phenomenon called collapse. This is simply a mathematical solution. This does not change the fact that an abrupt change has occured to the quantum wav...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 10:10 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

OK, we have to look at this carefully. First, it is a hypothesis that under extreme conditions, the collapse of the wave function simply occured by itself. This is hypothesis one. Then you used this first hypothesis to claim a second hypothesis and that is that the conscious observer is not require...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 9:40 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Rapid process results in instantaneous localization of quantum states in which is identical to how a particle's position is revealed during the collapse of its wavefunction due to an observer. This, I am afraid, is simply not true. The quantum wave function only provides a probability distribution....
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 9:31 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Not quite, the density fluctuations that formed at the end of inflationary phase, took place in such a short amount of time (one trillionth of a second) under extreme conditions (due to hyper expanding inflation) causing the change of wavefunction to superimpose so fast that it collapsed. Its not t...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 8:10 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Not quite, the density fluctuations that formed at the end of inflationary phase, took place in such a short amount of time (one trillionth of a second) under extreme conditions (due to hyper expanding inflation) causing the change of wavefunction to superimpose so fast that it collapsed. Its not t...
by Kenneth Chan
Wed May 10, 2023 2:34 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics
Replies: 1067
Views: 146680

Re: How Madhyamika Philosophy Solves the Mystery of Quantum Physics

Natusake, I think I'll just leave it at this: All our scientific data are data observed by the observer. Unobserved data means no data. Measurement in quantum physics has to be measurement by an observer. The measurement device alone is insufficient to account for the collapse of the wave function, ...

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