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by caveman
Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:25 am
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

A bit curious I'd suppose.....Does this imply....." How by running out the back door of the palace in the middle of the night and not having the balls to face your Father" that courage is then a purview of the man, or a manly attribute. In fact I have heard one comedian remark that a puss...
by caveman
Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:22 am
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

How is it that simple words can throw so many people off their meditation cushions. That's funny, from all your posts in this thread, it seems to me that the person who has been thrown the farthest from his cushion is you. That is if a cave man has a cushion in the first place. :D That't funny, bot...
by caveman
Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:12 am
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

How is it that simple words can throw so many people off their meditation cushions. I think you should concern yourself with your own cushion, and not the cushions of others. Great advice Namdrol and I really hope YOU also follow your OWN advise and "concern YOURSELF with your OWN cushion, and...
by caveman
Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:25 am
Forum: Gelug
Topic: H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama and his eventual successors
Replies: 27
Views: 7823

Re: H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama and his eventual successors

Nice of you to predict the future, Caveman. I wouldn't be sure about that. The Chinese government has already said that they would find the next incarnation of the Dalai Lama in China. They will use the golden urn method to select him. I really don't want to see this happen but I truly fear it will...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:59 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

:shrug: Well that's an interesting topic. But if he was "fully enlightened" or not...I just don't know. For one thing I m NOT "Enlightened", much less fully enlightened....and I'm not even sure what that term would mean anyhow. Also I'm a male so I simply can't speak for the gen...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:57 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

Yeah, simple words like: I ask this not to attack Buddhism but to look at the facts around the Buddha and his fear of women, fatherhood and marriage. --and-- Buddha faced nothing not even his own cowardice. Who's being disrespectful here, eh? I said everyone back to their cushions no more playing i...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:41 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

I just misread it, dude. It was an honest mistake, and you can't ascribe any "anti-bonpo" attitude to me because of it. Geez, lighten up, would you? Many of my posts (and, I think Dhondrup's as well) were trying to inject some humor into this otherwise-snarky thread. How is it that simple...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:33 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

Caveman- This isn't a "Bon" website, it's a Dharma website, which includes a Bon subforum, as Bon is a Tibetan Dharma tradition. Your original post, and in fact every post you've made since, except this last one, didn't specify that you were looking for only Bonpos to respond. And that, q...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:10 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

And on the label it says "HELL" The anger burned for 5 hours and it produced 3 pages. Maybe Mucho Demdrug and Sangwa Ngangring can purify this place..... Maybe Bonpos with chips on their shoulders about the Buddha should take it somewhere else. Like a "Bon" website, :oops: like ...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:57 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

No, Caveman, he did not. His comment is directed at the fact that your tradition does not have a "fatwa," it says nothing about anything happening to you....he's relieved that you, and your tradition, don't have a stipulation to kill heretics and apostates. Please explain to us how you fi...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:47 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

Dhondrub wrote:
dude- good for you us buddhists dont have Fatwa
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Did you just threaten me a Bonpo with implied death!!!
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:28 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

I hope we can have a polite yet critical discussion on this topic. I especially liked the word "polite" here..... So there it is, can you be fully enlightened without facing all the challenges that married life in Samsara and Nirvana can throw at you? Can I? I dunno. But I think we've ind...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:35 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

And you Sir are only guessing about why the buddha did what he did. Deeds Speak and you can make up all the reasons but Sir you will never convince a woman that leaving your wife and child for the dharma is OK. They do not consider this enlightened or compassion in action. They call it cowardly! Of...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:30 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

[quote="ronnewmexico"]Caveman your perception of the role and importance of a man as opposed to a woman is greatly overrated. It does in fact reflect your paternalistic backround. If you were refecting a maternal backround you would find such things of not of the criticalness you describe....
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:25 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

Can you or anyone address the REAL LIFE ACTIONS of the Buddha. Real life actions must go along with real life teachings, I assume. From such teachings one understands that desire is an affliction and the root of samsara. Those who have attained nirvana have no sensual desire but see that it is only...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:15 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

N...is 100% correct. First of all, this borders on an ad hominem, don't you think? Uncalled for........ Caveman, this was a different time, a different culture....you are seeing this through eyes that are conditioned by your own assumptions and opinions. Forgetting, for the moment, the "Bigger...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:02 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

The buddhas message as buddha, as example or actual person, was the middle way. NOt the right way wrong way nor good or bad way. To leave family and such with others may on occasion be the best choice considering the circumstance. Such was the circumstance. We all must make choices in life, none ar...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:51 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

N...is 100% correct. In the world of tribal leadership. lords kings and all that, the first born was not necessarily compeled to become the ruler. Some did not have the predispostion. The accomodation was, the first born must if no heir was aviilable produce a heir to continue the line. Such was do...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:31 pm
Forum: Bön
Topic: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?
Replies: 131
Views: 28228

Re: Was the Buddha "FULLY" enlightened?

Sorry Namdrol but you are :offtopic: Can you or anyone address the REAL LIFE ACTIONS of the Buddha. Deeds speak and the Buddha's inability to face married life and running into monastic clothes reminds me of so many westerners I've seen abandon there spouse and children to follow the DHARMA. This is...
by caveman
Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:15 pm
Forum: Gelug
Topic: H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama and his eventual successors
Replies: 27
Views: 7823

Re: H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama and his eventual successors

The sad thing in all this will be the simple fact that TWO Dalai Lamas will be the 14th's successors. We know that there will be the Chinese Dalai Lama and the OTHER Dalai Lama. It would not surprise me to see the Chinese Dalai Lama traveling around the world surrounded by his Chinese mentors. Two D...

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