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by dharmafootsteps
Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

PeterC wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:07 pm
Malcolm wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:19 pm They would need to be able to read Tibetan and give the lung in that language.
If after all these years the DC can’t pull together a group of students who can read Tibetan, then the writing really is on the wall
Of course it can.
by dharmafootsteps
Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Hey bro..why dont you get a petition going to ask the IDC to ask Yeshi to take over as The Teacher for IDC...with everyone signing knowing that things will be different from how ChNN ran things? It was already asked, he said no. he said no to the idc as it is, as it has being all this years. it nee...
by dharmafootsteps
Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

it is the idc that must adapt to YN, not YN to the idc. that is the way. when we studied the blue book and the blue print it was clear clear thar things must go in the way the master pointa out. the reluctancy to change the community and practitioners habits ia the serious obstacle here. we members...
by dharmafootsteps
Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Steve's message was to a particular mailing list?
by dharmafootsteps
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

To equate not having a public forum with secrecy doesn't make sense, we are open and transparent within its members, not to the public. Right, and so why do Yeshe threaten to sue anyone that talks about what happened on a meeting with 500 people? That isn't very transparent in my eyes. /magnus Not ...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

I'm going to have to check out. I thought maybe I could contribute something useful, but I was probably wrong, for me this is turning into airing our dirty laundry in public. If we had a private DC forum that's one thing, but I don't think an open dharma board that has nothing to do with our communi...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:55 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

If it clarified them, then let the DC members know about it. And go against Yeshi's wishes? There's nothing useful in that. The most likely result is no more communication between him and us, ever. Not to mention it's disrespectful. If you agree to meet someone on their terms, for something you wan...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

The thing is that is not about you or I I’m not sure what you mean by that. As has been said above: First, the first practice in the common preliminaries is there for a reason. Death is certain, it’s time of arrival is not, so we should never wait to practice. That includes seeking out practices an...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Fa Dao wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:59 pm OR people could practice their asses off, and "Relax, be Present, do Guruyoga and Song of Vajra..that is all I ask" and eventually the problem will solve itself
:twothumbsup:
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

But there are a lot of people in the DC that been teaching for decades and "lung" is normally not something requiring that the person giving it is fully realised. There are also other masters that can give direct introduction. So it all comes down to the Longsal teachings. If you have taken on a po...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:10 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

But there are a lot of people in the DC that been teaching for decades and "lung" is normally not something requiring that the person giving it is fully realised. There are also other masters that can give direct introduction. So it all comes down to the Longsal teachings. If you have taken on a po...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

From my perspective if you´re interested in such things, it´s always possible to understand what´s going on by talking to those involved, listening to AGMs etc. But I understand that might be difficult or confusing for people who mostly have a virtual/distance connection to the community and perhap...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:26 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

As an aside, I think something that´s not well understood by the community is that organizationally the DC is not a monolith. The DC is the community of practitioners who are students of ChNN. Then there are different organisations that were created under the guidance of Rinpoche to fulfill specific...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:22 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

The problem (purely in my personal opinion) is who exactly are we asking? Who constitutes the DC leadership to you? Rinpoche didn´t appoint a successor or leave instructions. Is there some individual you trust in Rinpoche´s place to judge everyone´s capacity and say this person has it, they will be...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Out of interest, what exactly are people waiting on, and from who? I don´t say that to be confrontational, but I´m not exactly sure the answers to those questions are even clear. I think the answer to the first question is: 1/ means by which people can receive lungs and explanations of teachings, i...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Out of interest, what exactly are people waiting on, and from who? I don´t say that to be confrontational, but I´m not exactly sure the answers to those questions are even clear.
by dharmafootsteps
Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:23 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Just received another one clarifying that it seems to be up to those attending what they share and how. I have no idea what any of it is about or even that there was a meeting. lol :) well, there was a meeting, that is good news by itself :cheers: Im afraid it is a good news... I think there's a 'n...
by dharmafootsteps
Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

https://facebook.com/events/s/rhythmic-breathing-and-natural/597981004172369/?ti=as Anyone know who lama karma is? Thanks. Yes, he's a Kagyu guy but also received teachings from ChNN. I don't know anything about his qualities as a Lama, but seems like a nice guy, and qualified to teach 8 Movements ...
by dharmafootsteps
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:38 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 7606
Views: 933163

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

I didn't watch the webcast, but I guess if they're not from the 7 used in the SMS་ Base, they'd be from the 21 semdzins book. They didn't seem to be in there, but it was unlikely anyway as they are all rushen. Ah, oops. Lack of presence on my part. I had it in my head that we were talking about sem...

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