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by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:30 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism
Replies: 78
Views: 6484

Re: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism

The fact that they are lay Christians or Christian monks does not necessarily entail their "cling[ing] to illusions such as Christ and God". Then I seriously question your understanding of "Christian." Aha. So you argue that being a "Christian" equals "cling[ing] to illusions such as Christ and God...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:09 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism
Replies: 78
Views: 6484

Re: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism

mint wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
Sure. Why do you assume they do?
Because you told me that they are lay Christians and monks.
The fact that they are lay Christians or Christian monks does not necessarily entail their "cling[ing] to illusions such as Christ and God".
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:41 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism
Replies: 78
Views: 6484

Re: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism

But these are only your ideas, Mint, regarding what the hypothetical priest would do in such a situation. Please note that in the past Dzogchen was considered to be a heresy, and because of that villified, by quite a few Vajrayana masters - and some of the students of these masters did practice Dzo...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:31 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: 'Buddha's skull' found in Nanjing?
Replies: 5
Views: 865

Re: 'Buddha's skull' found in Nanjing?

And, since they've already started to clone mammoths . . .
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:29 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism
Replies: 78
Views: 6484

Re: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism

Could he? Practically, yes, he could - but he would be deceiving himself. As an individual, he would soon come to the realization of right view and renounce his holy orders. Either way, he could not continue in his capacity as a Catholic priest as ChNNR says he could. But these are only your ideas,...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:37 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism
Replies: 78
Views: 6484

Re: Dzogchen and Religious Pluralism

What it actually means is that worldly religions such as christianity, etc. are included in the nine yanas. The nine yanas in the root tantra of Dzogchen, the "Drathal Jyur" are a little different than in other places. Here, the first vehicle is the vehicle of gods and men, where we can include Xia...
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:07 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5722
Views: 506470

Re: Is receiving transmission via webcast a farce?

As for Namkhai Norbu providing a plan of action, I feel like this about most of Buddhism, really. If you want a more structured approach, try SMS - that's what it, or at the very least the Base part of it, is here for. You've got some solid theory to usher you in, you've got more than some guided p...
by treehuggingoctopus
Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Kalu Rinpoche shocking news!
Replies: 129
Views: 19214

Re: Kalu Rinpoche shocking news!

gregkavarnos wrote:Now that takes guts!!!

Well done kalu rinpoche!
:bow:
+ 1

One hell of an admirable Rinpoche He is. :bow:
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:47 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interfaith Dialogue
Replies: 2049
Views: 113395

Re: Buddhism on God

So glad it's over. Let's hope the horror's truly over, and there won't be any more long-legged avatars of the banished creepy-crawly.
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:20 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interfaith Dialogue
Replies: 2049
Views: 113395

Re: Buddhism on God

Aren't we perhaps continuing the very same endless and endlessly futile discussion with the very same guy who appears under endlessly different names and keeps drawing and throwing at us, handful after handful, the same old nonsense from the very same old hat? How long is it going to last? http://ww...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:54 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interfaith Dialogue
Replies: 2049
Views: 113395

Re: Buddhism on God

Before running through them again, perhaps we should agree on a definition. I suggest that we use God in the common parlance, God the Creator, the Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent Alpha and Omega. I regard other uses of the word as illegitimate, not because I think someone has their theology ...
by treehuggingoctopus
Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:30 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interfaith Dialogue
Replies: 2049
Views: 113395

Re: Buddhism on God

The problem is that no matter how its framed God always means, in essence, some supreme force that has somehow caused things to come into being. No matter how it's framed? Really? How come? The word "God" is just a word. As such, it can mean anything . To cite just a handful of random examples: Mar...
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:36 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Dharmahammer 40000
Replies: 14
Views: 1433

Re: Dharmahammer 40000

Is Food Eatah intended to rhyme with 'world eater'?
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:34 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Yet another hullo
Replies: 16
Views: 1148

Re: Yet another hullo

Dechen Norbu wrote:Image
Mmmm...octopus.
Now I'm feeling very, very afraid.
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:11 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Monk?
Replies: 51
Views: 4369

Re: Dzogchen Monk?

I do not think he has a 15 years cursus with all what Namdrol includes in it! Sönam I don't think Namdrol suggested that the knowledge indispensable for becoming a qualified teacher must in all cases be acquired in one particular way. Personally, not only am I convinced Yeshi is indeed 100% qualifi...
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:05 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Yet another hullo
Replies: 16
Views: 1148

Re: Yet another hullo

Food_Eatah wrote:okay, I believe you then!

And... if the octopus is hugging the tree, who is hugging the octopus?
D'oh!
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:54 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Interfaith Dialogue
Replies: 2049
Views: 113395

Re: Buddhism on God

There are very interesting dialogues which can happen between religions, not mattering if their are theist or not. Tobes made some interesting statments and so did padma norbu. There are meditative experiences which may lead one to believe that there is a God if such is the practitioner's view, thu...
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:51 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Monk?
Replies: 51
Views: 4369

Re: Dzogchen Monk?

They should be educated in the five major sciences, sutra, tantra, have done retreats, have gained some measure of signs of experience, skilled in giving explanations, in addition to having bodhicitta, and so on. N And what's about Khyentse Yeshi and few others of the kind ? Well, is Yeshi lacking ...
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:18 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Social Typology Quiz
Replies: 16
Views: 1390

Re: Social Typology Quiz

palchi wrote:Solid liberal here.... from a European perspective!
+1
by treehuggingoctopus
Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:46 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Yet another hullo
Replies: 16
Views: 1148

Re: Yet another hullo

Not guilty! Not guilty!

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