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by Kai
Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:43 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

You get in touch with this throughout life provided you can meet a qualified Guru. When you die, there is nothing restricting you from attaining Buddhahood, without going from first stage to second stage, etc. Knowledge during life is knowledge but your a little bit restricted without the path of s...
by Kai
Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:08 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Also standard Nyingma Dzogchen practitioners are divided into two types (Berzin website has more information, go check it out): those who progress through stages (lam-rim-pa) and those for whom everything happens at once (cig-char-ba). For those who progress through stages, at the path of seeing, a...
by Kai
Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:10 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Alternatively, one can complete the Four Visions, provided one can (very difficult). Most practitioners are liberated in the bardo. If that's the case, there are no stages, then the four visions should be known as One vision since there is no differentiation in the level of practices. However, real...
by Kai
Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:02 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Yes......You can deny all you want. Longchenpa disagree with you, Jamgon Kongtrul disagree with you, etc. And many people will rather trust their words over yours. One of the reasons why Sarma schools initially had problems with Dzogchen is due to the misconception that Dzogchen does not follow the...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:59 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Yes, the basis is pure and beyond stages and paths. The path and stages in Dzogchen is dependent on how long you can actually rest in the natural state. It is actually gradual as the four visions and so on clarifies. /magnus Hi heart, You are missing the point. As you say: the basis is pure and bey...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:58 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

Nope. Kevin Yes......You can deny all you want. Longchenpa disagree with you, Jamgon Kongtrul disagree with you, etc. And many people will rather trust their words over yours. One of the reasons why Sarma schools initially had problems with Dzogchen is due to the misconception that Dzogchen does no...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:48 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

I'm not asking, just stating.........and People who practice Mahamudra and Dzogchen can attain Buddhahood do need to traverse the bhumis in stages. There are many detailed teachings on that....... Hi Kai, No. The difference with Dzogchen is not only method but also view. There is more information i...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:58 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Re: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

The discussion originated from this thread before it degenerated into Madhyamaka snipping which is rather amusing. even then one only reach the 1st Bhumi at the final phrase of the completion stage, not before. Even before that, to enter the path of preparation of "Heat", one needs to practice on c...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:34 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: DO and Emptiness
Replies: 60
Views: 4766

Re: DO and Emptiness

Different systems, different terms, different understanding. It is good to understand these differences and not conflate the terms of one system with another. Agree with you.....Actually, thats what I'm trying to tell you when we discussed about "16 Bhumis and the five paths" thingy not long ago......
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:22 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: DO and Emptiness
Replies: 60
Views: 4766

Re: DO and Emptiness

Different systems, different terms, different understanding. It is good to understand these differences and not conflate the terms of one system with another. Agree with you.....Actually, thats what I'm trying to tell you when we discussed about "16 Bhumis and the five paths" thingy not long ago....
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:46 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: DO and Emptiness
Replies: 60
Views: 4766

Re: DO and Emptiness

Your two below exceptions made up a bigger portion of the Mahayana community than you thought.........they are not insignificant. True But most of you are Vajrayana practitioners correct? Vajrayana's base is Madhyamaka right? Partially. Actually, all Tibetan schools do call their ultimate view "Mad...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:55 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: DO and Emptiness
Replies: 60
Views: 4766

Re: DO and Emptiness

Your two below exceptions made up a bigger portion of the Mahayana community than you thought.........they are not insignificant. True But most of you are Vajrayana practitioners correct? Vajrayana's base is Madhyamaka. Go take a look at the "Mountain doctrine" of the Tibetan Jonang school and be p...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:51 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: DO and Emptiness
Replies: 60
Views: 4766

Re: DO and Emptiness

alwayson wrote: It is the view of Mahayana in general that EVERYTHING is empty (dependently originated).

Except maybe Yogacara & Buddha Nature Sutras.
Your two below exceptions made up a bigger portion of the Mahayana community than you thought.........they are not insignificant.
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:45 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: DO and Emptiness
Replies: 60
Views: 4766

Re: DO and Emptiness

People, I'm a neutral observer but I just want to inform you guys that Namdrol's view is well stated in this discussion board long ago. Those interested, can take a look into the following threads: http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5261&start=160" onclick="window.open(this.href);return...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:41 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis
Replies: 182
Views: 11851

Creation Stage and the attainment of Bhumis

The discussion originated from this thread before it degenerated into Madhyamaka snipping which is rather amusing. It has been said on that thread that creation stage ===> 1st to 6th Bhumis but people must know that outside the Sakya tradition, its not really the case. Indeed, Gelug's commentaries o...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:08 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Evolution of humans and Mahayana Buddhism
Replies: 182
Views: 13884

Re: Evolution of humans and Mahayana Buddhism

Another interesting point is the plurality of worlds that we find in Theravada and Mahayana buddhism. The idea was known in ancient Greek world, it was known in the islamic world, one sentence in Quran speaks of worlds , it is also present in the Thousand and One Nights collection of stories. In Eu...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:52 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: What are some "must have" books?
Replies: 90
Views: 10184

Re: What are some "must have" books?

I think the crux of the matter in the discussions so far is not whether Nikaya schools had/have taught the emptiness/selflessness of all phenomena but whether the "anatta" view as presented in Theravada and some other Nikaya schools who focused on the "emptiness of a person" is sufficient for Arhath...
by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:40 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Propelling and Completing Karma
Replies: 45
Views: 3011

Re: Propelling and Completing Karma

For those who wish to know more in details about the discussions in this thread, please refer to this book:

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by Kai
Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:37 pm
Forum: Sūtra Studies
Topic: Cosmology
Replies: 29
Views: 3549

Re: Cosmology

Buddhist cosmology is at best, a metaphor or a useful model for visualization practices or even a framework to understand the thoughts of ancient Buddhist and their worldview. Unfortunately, many Buddhists don't see it that way.......
by Kai
Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:21 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Propelling and Completing Karma
Replies: 45
Views: 3011

Re: Propelling and Completing Karma

Also, what is Rupadhatu? Seems like it would be translated as sphere of form or perhaps sphere were the skandhas dwell in? Rupadhatu is a group of sixteen to seventeen heavenly realms (Depending on which tradition you follow) located above the desire realm. Basically, gods like Vishna, Shiva, Brahm...

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