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by Andrew108
Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:09 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Completion of the path of Tögal
Replies: 204
Views: 35441

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

This unfortunately is what happens when practitioners haven't stabilized the view. This is a case of fixating and it has very negative consequences.
Similar situations have happened in Tibet where practitioners have fixated on their Yidam and believed strongly in the reality of their visions.
by Andrew108
Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:05 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: ChNNR's Gomadevi practice
Replies: 9
Views: 1582

Re: ChNNR's Gomadevi practice

I guess you area student of ChNN. If this is indeed the case then you should have received the lung for this practice. If you are not a student of ChNN then I would recommend going to see him and asking him directly. It would be a very nice thing to do either way. Good luck with the practice and bes...
by Andrew108
Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:49 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

Virgo wrote:Recognizing Rigpa bypasses things such as recognizing emptiness, which by it's nature must be a recognition of mind.
Bypasses or includes? What is Ripa then? Some eternal shining aspect of mind?
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:58 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

@username - you are a cup that is completely full to the brim. The context of the discussion of emptiness is taking place within a forum related to Dzogchen. I am certainly not equating emptiness with blankness or nothingness. But thanks for the link - very nice. I have a link for you too.... http:/...
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:50 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

Well before this thread gets locked......and there is no bad feeling on my part. Just surprise. Here is how I would reply to username..... ‘’Andrew108, you say experienceof rigpa and mere emptiness are identical and when N corrects you, your friend accuses him of being anti-rime! This is becoming su...
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:19 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

Yes I think it would be useful to do this....
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:15 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

Would you like me to go through your post point by point?
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:08 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

Username....Wow........I think you should read through my posts again. Rigpa as innate wisdom - yes! What are the innate wisdoms? Kadag, lhundrub and inseperability of these two. I can't really be bothered to write much more but look up what kadag is and see how kadag as a wisdom is central/insepera...
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:40 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

If not, then all people who have recognized rigpa would be first stage bodhisattvas. But they are not. How do you know they are not? What I find difficult about your position (which seems quite tied to doctrine) is that it seems you are saying that a practitioner can be aware of their real nature i...
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:48 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

It is a trivial point because time is merely a convention. There is no time or continuity at all, other than conventionally. It's hardly trivial since conventions are what dualism is made of and getting stuck in conventions isn't going to get you out of dualistic view. Getting used to the state tha...
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:12 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: How to know a teachers level of realization?
Replies: 78
Views: 6407

Re: How to know a teachers level of realization?

Hi there Dechen, I did 100 syllable mantra 100.000x and had some experience of problems. Went to my teacher and he said that I hadn't understood the view completely. Went back to studying then started again and no problems - very effective and wonderful practice BUT not wonderful if the practitioner...
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:02 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

This is far from being a trivial point. But as others have said it is better to check these things with a teacher.
by Andrew108
Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:28 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

The point is that Rigpa has no continuity or time within it. It is not the case that intrinsic awareness is held from moment to moment. There is no time for intrinsic awareness. Belief in a continuity is deluded. In Mahamudra there is no time. In Dzogchen there is no time. Intrinsic awareness is oft...
by Andrew108
Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:53 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

I don't think the question was really answered correctly. So politely I will give my answer to what really can only be experienced. The way Rigpa is defined is as self-originated intrinsic awareness. Self-originated is the same as saying unborn. Unborn describes the true nature of mind and 'unborn' ...
by Andrew108
Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:20 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Garab Dorje Guru Yoga
Replies: 7
Views: 1867

Re: Garab Dorje Guru Yoga

The point is to receive the direct transmission. This is a guru yoga practice.
by Andrew108
Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:14 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

Neither have you answered the question.
But that's o.k as I don't think anyone is capable of answering in an accurate way.
by Andrew108
Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:34 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?
Replies: 317
Views: 27108

Re: Difference between recognizing rigpa & realizing emptiness?

The question is easily worked out when the one asking the question looks to their experience. It is mistaken to think that a question and the answer are the same thing.
So in this case the question is answered only through having the experience.

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