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by emaho
Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:02 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona
Replies: 433
Views: 49375

Re: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona

IMO the only "good thing" that can come out of this story is that it's a wake-up call for everybody who is still following this teacher.
by emaho
Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:33 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona
Replies: 433
Views: 49375

Re: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona

http://abcnews.go.com/US/buddhist-yoga-retreat-death-raises-questions-ariz-monks/story?id=16526754#.T9KlR-VoEng One of the comments on that article is interesting: Shafer Ranch 8:39 PM EDT Jun 08, 2012 The issue is who is next? i live at the ranch next to DM and believe the remaining retreaters are...
by emaho
Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:20 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona
Replies: 433
Views: 49375

Re: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona

Good point. But I'm not saying that an action is ethical if a person's intentions are good. The intention somebody has while doing something is one of the most important aspects relevant for the Karma that person accumulates. But it is not the only factor. That would be a misunderstanding of Buddhis...
by emaho
Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:02 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona
Replies: 433
Views: 49375

Re: Death at Tibetan Buddhist meditation retreat in Arizona

I agree with one poster on the above site. Roach seems to be more interested in addressing the damage done to his reputation than the damage he has caused in the lives of his students. Agreed. From the external perspective this is outrageous. From Roaches own internal perspective however this is qu...
by emaho
Sat May 19, 2012 3:47 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Obviuosly you have not one single argument on your side.
by emaho
Sat May 19, 2012 3:42 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

I am not the one who is making things personal here. If ON was a Tibetan teacher your OP and some of the follow-up posts would have been phrased very differently, with a lot more respect, with a lot more acceptance. with this you accused me of applying a double standard. I say, I don't apply a doubl...
by emaho
Sat May 19, 2012 11:33 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

That double standard extends of course to an evaluation of a teacher's teachings. If ON was a Tibetan teacher your OP and some of the follow-up posts would have been phrased very differently, with a lot more respect, with a lot more acceptance. That is not true. If you think I'm not applying my fac...
by emaho
Sat May 19, 2012 9:45 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Can we please stay focused and remain with the topic of this thread? I have no problem when the source of the citation is added, but this thread is about the teachings of Ole Nydahl and the question if these are in accordance with the Buddha dharma. A Tibetan lama can cause as much trouble as he wan...
by emaho
Sat May 19, 2012 7:01 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Allright, so in truth we are publicly reflecting on our own faults here. Nothing wrong with that, is it?

:tongue:
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 2:12 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

:rolling:
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 1:41 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

[*] Some of his teachings on ethic (like giving a student the advice to break somebody’s arm) Ole was reffering to the situation when, for instance someone wants to kill innocent people, and all the peacefull ways of preventing him to do so fail, then the only way is to break somebodys arm, to prev...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 1:31 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Hi Rafael, I really think this discussion would be easier and more frutile if we went through the points one by one. But I already had a feeling in practice this would be unrealistic. As to the phowa teachings Ole gives: I have the impression there are mainly two points controversial about Ole's pho...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 12:30 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: An interesting academic analysis of Diamond Way
Replies: 159
Views: 28994

Re: An interesting academic analysis of Diamond Way

I'm a student of Chhimed Rigdzin Rinpoche and I've heard a recording of one of his teachings where he said that Ole Nydahl is a good lama in the sense that he is attracting many people to the dharma. He also said that by this he would not mean that all of Ole's teachings were correct. He concluded b...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 11:29 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

By using the word "interpretation" I didn't mean to imply that every interpretation is necessarily wrong. I'm really just using the words teaching and interpretation in a colloquial sense, in which you could also say "XYZ has delivered a really ingenious and authentic interpretation of Nagarjuna's M...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 11:12 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

OK, let's start with his translation of staong pa nyid as space instead of emptiness. In addition to your philosophical argument I'd like to say: Space is often used as a metaphor for emptiness, but it is not the same as emptiness. Likewise it is also given as an instruction to beginners to visualiz...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 10:32 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Maybe we're just not using these words in the same meaning. I've never heard these words used in the way you just described it. For me phowa would be a practice or a transmission, and an explanation about how to practice phowa would be a teaching, as well as an introductory lecture to Buddhism would...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 10:19 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Andrew108 wrote:O.k but you mean we debate his interpretations rather than his teachings. If he has his own teachings then I wouldn't be interested in debating that.
Could you elaborate on that? I don't understand this distinction between interpretations and teachings you're making.
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 9:29 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Before we start the discussion we should maybe wait for some input and see if somebody wants to add some other topics to the list.

:namaste:
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 9:23 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Re: Ole Nydahl's teachings

Here is a list of points I think we should discuss: His Phowa teachings His take on Samayas His translation of stong pa nyid as space instead of emptiness And his translation of bde ba as joy instead of bliss His take on pure view His interpretation that having positive sense impressions is a form o...
by emaho
Fri May 18, 2012 9:20 am
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Ole Nydahl's teachings
Replies: 41
Views: 5686

Ole Nydahl's teachings

Hi all, I'm opening this thread because I suggest we discuss the teachings of Ole Nydahl here - and only his teachings. Can we please stay focused on this topic here and refrain from all other topics related to Ole Nydahl, such as the Karmapa affair and his role in it, his sexual conduct, and his po...

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