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by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:00 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

Clarence, the smiley face was just to soften the fact that I was disagreeing.
Clearly that did not have the intended effect. :shock:
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:55 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

At the risk of simply repeating myself..none of this is new or revolutionary. I have already said that 20 or more years ago Chime Youngden Rinpoche was saying..." If you want Ngondro its yours...but you can see your natural state right here, right now, if you want. " Most of us didn't believe him. W...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:47 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

It sells well among those who are looking for Dzogchen teachings and end up getting ngöndro and tantra. All from a Dzogchen perspective, of course. :lol: See Dechen Norbu, this line is the exact reason why people get annoyed. It is condescending. I really dont see how that is " condescending ". It ...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:25 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

It is interesting when we realize that we do not need the reference points which come from words attributed to mythological beings or speculative future states. :namaste: Groupthink masquerading as "freedom from all limitations" is still limitation. One man's "mythological being" is another man's "...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:20 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

Good question. :o Most responses from female practitioners seem to be written in the form of law suites. From one perspective of course Tantric sexuality is the cure for a non existent disease. Non existent from a Sutrayana perspective because sex is impure and should be avoided if possible...if not...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:20 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

Well thats odd. I posted a quoted post from earlier in the discussion which illustrates perfectly the fact that the life negative attitides I alluded to are still prevalent, and I bumped it without comment, or editing, or highlighting,..... but it has disappeared. Which I guess is as eloquent a stat...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:05 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

I recommend that those that view the process of sex and birth and everything female as negative and vulgar to go read the Vajrayogini Tantra. It goes a little (that's an understatement) beyond the second turning teachings of the Buddha. :namaste: If one wants to see the difference between sutra tea...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:53 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

I am not sure which bit of " and I will do the same " is unclear.
If it helps you to emote and project, (and it may )..please feel free.

This is after all just a screen with pixels on.
Its safe.
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:39 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

It really must be hard carrying all that. And at the same time having to maintain an outward adherence to equanimity and compassion. If you ever grow tired of it send me a personal message and indicate the general area where you live..I may be able to point you towards someone who can help you. In t...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:09 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

I guess that you are used to a particular response to your habitually aggressive tone. Which in the context of the larger cyberworld is normative but probably has mileage with a Buddhist forum used as it is to hushed tones. I find it merely amusing..apart from anything else I was acquainted with the...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:03 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

It is interesting when we realize that we do not need the reference points which come from words attributed to mythological beings or speculative future states.

:namaste:
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:59 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

There are no general rules...apart from those we manufacture to stop panic attacks when faced with That Which Simply Arises.

:namaste:
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:56 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations
Replies: 242
Views: 24260

Re: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations

The Dzogchen teachings are neither a philosophy, nor a religious doctrine, nor a cultural tradition. Understanding the message of the teachings means discovering one's own true condition, stripped of all the self-deceptions and falsifications which the mind creates. Yes this is really the case. One...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:42 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?
Replies: 140
Views: 16291

Re: Is sex considered vulgar to Buddhists?

I have a mixed view of Ken Wilbur, but he introduced a useful phrase. He describes spiritual philosophies as "life/body positive " or "life/body negative." He says that due to various psychological factors inherent in much spiritual philosophy , which in turn is related to the degree of religiosity ...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:17 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

I dont think either generalization is useful.
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:06 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen and ngöndro
Replies: 385
Views: 32558

Re: Dzogchen and ngöndro

To some. For some.
by Simon E.
Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:41 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Nakedness
Replies: 103
Views: 11065

Re: Nakedness

Clearly Heart you would rather I did not post here.Your consistent tone makes that plain. And I certainly have no emotional or psychological need to do so. So I will wish you well and concede to your wish. :namaste: No, don't be ridiculous. I certainly hope you keep posting. I said exactly the same...
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:38 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Nakedness
Replies: 103
Views: 11065

Re: Nakedness

Clearly Heart you would rather I did not post here.Your consistent tone makes that plain.
And I certainly have no emotional or psychological need to do so. So I will wish you well and concede to your wish.

:namaste:
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:07 pm
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: the ethnic conflict in Burma
Replies: 108
Views: 13531

Re: the ethnic conflict in Burma

The Telegraph..otherwise known as the torygraph is about as right-wing, and as reliable, as Fox News.
by Simon E.
Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:15 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: George Ivanovich Gurdjieff's "Self-Remembering" and Dzogchen
Replies: 20
Views: 4420

Re: George Ivanovich Gurdjieff's "Self-Remembering" and Dzogchen

Apologies..that link seems to be broken. Try... Lataif-e-Sitta on Wiki. It covers the basics.

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