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by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:57 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Sex Taboo's & applying Christianized thinking in Western Zen
Replies: 299
Views: 32544

Re: Sex Taboo's & applying Christianized thinking in Western

In its country of origin Zen is quite socially conservative, although Zen priests are allowed to marry. But I don't think this has anything to do with 'Christianized zen'. What it's really about is rationalising whatever behaviour you enjoy without feeling guilty about it. 'Whatever turns you on', a...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:21 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Sex Taboo's & applying Christianized thinking in Western Zen
Replies: 299
Views: 32544

Re: Sex Taboo's & applying Christianized thinking in Western

I don't accept the notion that 'Buddhism has no concept of sin'. It is post-sixties Western culture that has declared the notion of sin obsolete, as a consequence of the Sexual Revolution. And it is more than coincidental that many Western Buddhist groups have roots in the sixties counter-culture, f...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:42 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Sex Taboo's & applying Christianized thinking in Western Zen
Replies: 299
Views: 32544

Re: Sex Taboo's & applying Christianized thinking in Western

We, especially in America, are far too prudish about sex Curious, then, that according to a PBS documentary about 5 years back, the US 'sex industry' has a larger annual turnover than professional sports. I visited the states recently ad in every hotel room I stayed in, X-rated video was available ...
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:00 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

That article by Jundo Cohen is pretty accurate in my view. Scandals and failures are a part of any spiritual movement. They don't necessarily invalidate the whole thing. I remember clearly the issue of the counter-culture journal Common Ground which broke the story of the role of alcohol in Chogyam ...
by Wayfarer
Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:23 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

The editorial in the Spring 2013 edition of Tricycle discusses the Joshu Sasaki matter (may require subscription).
by Wayfarer
Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:57 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

Furthermore the quality and standard of debate on ZFI is just as good as on this forum. By what criteria? I'd like to know so DW can learn from the successes of others. It's well moderated, threads generally stay on topic, the tone is generally civil, and there are several contributors with expert ...
by Wayfarer
Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:22 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality
Replies: 364
Views: 34669

Re: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality

I understand the point, but I think it is easily misconstrued.
by Wayfarer
Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:44 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality
Replies: 364
Views: 34669

Re: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality

You can make the case that all of that kind of allegorical and descriptive language is necessary, as a concession to the limited human ability to understand the ineffable nature of Nirvana. But, on the other hand, it then can begin to turn into the kinds of 'substantialist' notions that early Buddhi...
by Wayfarer
Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:15 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality
Replies: 364
Views: 34669

Re: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality

Some Tirthikas call it by the name Atman or "the Self." In the W Y Evans-Wentz edition of the Tibetan Book of the Great Liberation , which is based around the same poem, the translation given for Tirthika is 'heretic'. Here, it reads 'certain heretics call it the Ego'. I note that the real meaning ...
by Wayfarer
Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:56 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

No, from what I recall there were only two volumes. (It was a long time ago). But I do remember the concluding passages of the set I read, and it was very much a reflection on his experiences throughout his lifetime, and his disillusionment with some of the notable Buddhists he had encountered, and ...
by Wayfarer
Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:26 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

I have read his memoirs but never seen a published copy. The copy I read was photocopied and ring-bound in the Adyar Library.
by Wayfarer
Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:31 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

I was just reflecting that you will find statements in the Zen (Ch'an) corpus to the effect that Buddhism is a steaming pile of s***. This seems shocking, but it is making a point. Maybe its this: we need only need to do or practice anything as an antidote or a remedy. This actually comes across in ...
by Wayfarer
Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:02 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: American "Zen"
Replies: 169
Views: 21547

Re: American "Zen"

I think there's a lot of truth in Conze's observations, but it is hardly news. (Besides which, it can easily become the basis of yet another 'whose is the Real Dharma' rant, which is becoming endemic in modern, particularly electronic, Buddhism.) Aside from posting here, I am also a member of Zen Fo...
by Wayfarer
Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:56 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality
Replies: 364
Views: 34669

Re: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality

i have utmost respect for Bikkhu Bodhi, but I think that particular essay basically speaks to one of the principle differences between Theravada and Mahayana appraoches. The Abhidamma tradition was more realist and pluralist, whilst the Mahayana incorporated a more mystical kind of approach. There i...
by Wayfarer
Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:32 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality
Replies: 364
Views: 34669

Re: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality

It's not 'tearing each others heads off'. In the context of a spiritually-oriented culture there was a underlying consensus that there was a 'highest good' and that there was a way to realise it. There were deep differences about what it consisted of, how to attain it, and so on. But the modern cont...
by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:43 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddhist Scholar Paul Williams Conversion to Catholicism
Replies: 85
Views: 12186

Re: Buddhist Scholar Paul Williams Conversion to Catholicism

In my experience, not so much 'giving up' as 'seeing through'. This is not to say that symbolic understanding is not important in its own way. But, recall the 'finger point at the moon'.
by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:56 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: The significance of empowerments
Replies: 34
Views: 4133

Re: The significance of empowerments

I hope so too. I must admit, I am having a bit of an inner struggle as to where I belong. I am not affiliated formally with any particular school but have friends and contacts in various traditions. I am very drawn to Soto Zen but also find many of the current Tibetan teachings very attractive. This...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:35 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddhist Scholar Paul Williams Conversion to Catholicism
Replies: 85
Views: 12186

Re: Buddhist Scholar Paul Williams Conversion to Catholicism

That is not what I got from what he wrote. Rather, it seems his concern with Buddhism is that He, Paul Williams, though reborn, will not be reborn as a continuous entity. The fear, it seems rather, is fear of not enjoying a lasting self. But even in the Christian teaching, the 'lasting self' is pre...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:01 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: The significance of empowerments
Replies: 34
Views: 4133

Re: The significance of empowerments

No sooner do I post this thread, than I get an email invitation to an empowerment ceremony, next Sunday week.

I'm going. :smile:
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:42 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality
Replies: 364
Views: 34669

Re: Advaitin vs. Buddhist takes on awareness/reality

It can indeed throw you off. But one of the books - I'm a very bookish person, in case that isn't obvious already - that influenced me, was called The Heretical Imperative by a sociologist called Peter Berger. The thrust of this book is that the original meaning of the word 'heresy' is actually deri...

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