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by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: A Question Concerning 'Self'
Replies: 17
Views: 592

Re: A Question Concerning 'Self'

Are you aware, per-chance, of any good, single book (in English) that covers the entire chronology of Jainism, Hinduism & Buddhism? Not really. They're enormous subjects in their own right and I doubt could be covered in a single volume. Perhaps a 'history of Indian philosophy' textbook or somethin...
by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

The Buddha does not necessarily teach two consciousnesses in your link as the commentary may want to assert because his teaching can also be interpreted as a rejection of an eternalist view in terms of consciousness. The commentary, by Thanissaro, does explicitly say that: The Buddha, knowing that ...
by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

That dictionary...refers to the six abhijnas, five of which are aptly called psychic powers (magical powers, clairvoyance, clairaudience, remembering past lives, telepathy), while the sixth is the "extinction of the contaminants (āsravakṣaya, P. āsavakkhāya)" that is unique to liberated beings. Rig...
by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

What do you base that definition [of abhijna] on? I’ll go with the one you quoted from the Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism. There are six senses. If something is beyond them, it'd take a seventh sense to perceive it. Is there a seventh sense in your interpretation? Jñāna is not simply the product ...
by Wayfarer
Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:25 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

It's the true nature of the six sensory areas and five aggregates that is to be realised, and not something apart from them. The definition of abhijna is super-knowledge. 'Abhi' is 'higher' - the question is, 'higher' along what axis? 'Higher' compared to what? Why is it that 'abhijna' cannot be kn...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:59 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

So my interpretation of the Brahmajala is that it is a critique of any and all kinds of speculative views (all of which are ultimately based on self either existing or not existing) so as to ‘go beyond’. Its subject is the attaining of genuine jñāna, not the speculative views of philosophers and ot...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

Well, I also suggested contradiction a few pages ago in the thread, but I'm not keeping score or anything. :spy: No, I don’t think it’s a contradiction. The interpretation I follow is that there reallly is ‘beyond’. ‘Clinging’ is what obscures or occludes the understanding of it, and clinging inclu...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

It was me that suggested a contradiction but I don’t think it is.
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

actually I have found it, here, and it is as Coëmgenu says. And it does appear to contradict the statement in 'the All'. I will have to study that. There is some discussion of it on Sutta Central (here.)
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:59 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

Coëmgenu wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:27 am
What would you like me to cite exactly and I'll cite it.
Where the equivalent phrase is in the BB translation, or at Sutta Central,
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

Then, cite a translation in which the phrase you quoted occurs in the Brahmajala Sutta. You're using it in support of an interpretation which I don't think can be found there. If you're going to cite texts in support of a point, then please do take care to do so carefully, rather than simply throwin...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

This is only what you are interpreting from within the All. And with that you are actually trying to fabricate 'another All'. "What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas . This, monks, is called the All. [1] A...
by Wayfarer
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Remote Teaching Centres and Programmes
Replies: 17
Views: 1730

Re: Remote Teaching Centres and Programmes

I’m going through the IBA program.
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:56 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

Sherab wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:29 pm
the Buddha taught that there are two types of consciousness.
Where is that taught? What is a reference to a 'consciousness beyond the All?'
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Remote Teaching Centres and Programmes
Replies: 17
Views: 1730

Re: Remote Teaching Centres and Programmes

Bumping this thread for the benefit of any recent joiners.
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Buddhist Terminology & their Definitions
Replies: 6
Views: 269

Re: Buddhist Terminology & their Definitions

Does this Site have it's own (basic / brief) Short(ish) List of Common Buddhist Terminology plus Definitions (perhaps a List Members can - with Moderator Approval - contribute any 'omissions' to, on the proviso the Terms / Expressions are both 'handy' and not 'too' esoteric for most folk to easily ...
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

The statement was I was responding to was 'If mind is understood to be <a product of> the brain, it is divisible and parts of it can observe other parts.' But I don't think that makes a lot of sense. The point about the 'subjective unity of experience' is that it is not something that science can ex...
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:59 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: A Question Concerning 'Self'
Replies: 17
Views: 592

Re: A Question Concerning 'Self'

Ureka! Satori Moment! Think I might just have 'got it' !! Just stumbled on a Zen Passage by (I believe Alan Watts) along the following lines (my 'bracketed' paraphrasing in parts): "...No one (i.e. No 'Self') who perceives anything, experiences anything, feels anything. Only (the) ‘seeing, experien...
by Wayfarer
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:25 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

The first of the four seals: All compounded things are impermanent. Mind is a compounded thing. Therefore mind is impermanent according to the four seals. In many forms of cittamatra (mind-only) teachings, 'mind' is identified as 'the unconditioned': There are many gates to meditation in the Mahāyā...
by Wayfarer
Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?
Replies: 299
Views: 5609

Re: Why is consciousness seen as something impermanent?

Similarly the mind can see the mind, if a part of the mind separates from and observes the rest. In that case there are at least 2 minds, what contradicts the idea that the mind is what perceives, and also that the mind is unitary. It is that mind cannot see mind, in the same way the hand cannot gr...

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