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Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:43 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

Heruka, let me ask you this. What is stopping you from recognizing the natural state while doing prostrations? You think it is the movements of your body or the visualization? The visualizations are only thoughts, is it difficult for you to recognize the natural state when you have thoughts? Is it ...
by heart
Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:26 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

muni has a very real, big heart, very compassionate. :anjali: I won't doubt that but his discourse here is everything but clear and respectful of the tradition. It is demanding, derogatory, sententious and out of topic most of the time. This demand for respect sounded completely out of the blue and...
by heart
Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:48 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

I'm surprize the discussion is still going on, and the arguments are still the same, not the slightest change. There could not be any ngondro with Dzogchen, it's antinomic ... about that there could'nt be a real discussion. And to the question ... when you are not in rigpa what do you do? and why n...
by heart
Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:02 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

but still no one has noticed gterma teaching cycle contains everything, complete to perfect realization, the cycle contains many things, and is excellent indeed, that was never the point.....ever!!!.... dzogchen is not bound by any of them, for if it were it would be based on causality, which it is...
by heart
Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:51 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

Patrul Rinpoche said to his disciple: " Do you see the stars shining above in the sky? Do you hear the dogs barking behind the monastery? Then, how is nature of mind?" "Wordly fame and see your nature, forget it". Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche Thank you internet. You probably have no idea who Nyoshul Lun...
by heart
Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:04 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

:focus: For us that don't read Tibetan there are quite a few translations to English that show the relationship between Dzogchen and Ngondro. http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9433.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9800.html" onclick="...
by heart
Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:32 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

:focus: For us that don't read Tibetan there are quite a few translations to English that show the relationship between Dzogchen and Ngondro. http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9433.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_9800.html" onclick="w...
by heart
Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:45 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

Yes. Respect for other teachers who are not strictly following same system. That is all. Awareness. Yes, it looks strange, to answer so. How we draw concepts about "others" by handful words. A chain of concepts rolling into a theatre like scenario about what isnt. Ah! So, who are these teachers tha...
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:19 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

muni wrote: Awareness. Awareness. Awareness.
You certainly lack respect for mutsuk and this discussion muni, that response is ridiculous.

/magnus
by heart
Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:28 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

I was't pointing to anything, Heart. Just asked respect. In a tread of Dzogchen we should recognize what is talking. My foolish ego power or awareness. We are not actually teaching Dzogchen here just discussing the general outline so the only thing that is necessary is that what is said is based on...
by heart
Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:13 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: A question regarding direct introduction to one's own nature
Replies: 15
Views: 2432

Re: A question regarding direct introduction to one's own nature

Base on Karma Chamed, the first time recognition for him is like the shell of the rice seed, and kind of useless. Useless is in sense that it won't help you when you face problems like negative thoughts or the final challenge: death. Only through deligent meditation and 'keeping' (see, it's interes...
by heart
Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:04 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

i think people mixed up about approach to ati and what is actually in ati. It seems so indeed. Usually people mix up Dzogchen and the Dzogchenpa. The state of Dzogchen does not need any thing. The practitioner of Dzogchen needs to improve himself and this is so until he reaches the fruit. Indeed mu...
by heart
Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:25 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

Let me mention the Longchen Nyingthig as an example. You don't consider the Longchen Nyingthig as Dzogchen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longchen_Nyingthig#History_and_background" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The tradition holds Mañjushrīmītra to have first codified Atiyoga into th...
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:14 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

i think people mixed up about approach to ati and what is actually in ati. if a ngondro helps in developing stability, then that is great, but dont ever claim please that ngondro is in ati yoga, cause your placing things in the teachings and that is never good. As for the idea that teachers somehow...
by heart
Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:58 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: A question regarding direct introduction to one's own nature
Replies: 15
Views: 2432

Re: A question regarding direct introduction to one's own nature

Heruka wrote: No, absolutely not. Dear Heruka, :) Even normal people experience the Natural State during the day time. But they do not recognise this or they do not know it like that. But during the introduction the light is burning also only for a few seconds may be. But due to the masters skill t...
by heart
Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:14 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: A question regarding direct introduction to one's own nature
Replies: 15
Views: 2432

Re: A question regarding direct introduction to one's own nature

My question is, does every student of Dzogchen experiment the "natural state" (rigpa) when the Dozgchen master give the direct transmission? ZC No, absolutely not. A Dzogchen master is a Dzogchen master because he continuously try to rest in the natural state. Being close to him doing whatever ther...
by heart
Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:20 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

We do Ngondro to develop devotion and compassion and remove obstacles and to ascertain the continuous auspiciousness needed to fully realize our Buddha nature. Ngondro like Yidam also have the affect to cut through our tendency to intellectualizing the natural state. Contrary to what Sönam suggest, ...
by heart
Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:22 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kuji-In? Hm?
Replies: 12
Views: 3325

Re: Kuji-In? Hm?

I am sorry for your friends but this isn't Buddhism.

/magnus
by heart
Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:49 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

Garab Dorje, Manjushrimitra, Jñānasūtra, Vimalamitra and others did ngondrö ? possibly. In a form we all have practiced ngondrö to be fortunate today to discovere dzogchen. Is it directely related to dzogchen ... I don't know. Anyway exercices are good for health .. Well if one of these are your te...
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Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:30 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yidam and Dzogchen
Replies: 734
Views: 60173

Re: Yidam and Dzogchen

How long can you stay in rigpa (the natural state) during one hour of meditation Sönam? The time you not are in rigpa you will be, by necessity, in mind (sem) isn't that right? You can't push rigpa, can you? Wouldn't it be better to use those moments i mind (sem) doing something that might bring yo...

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