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by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:44 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: ChNNR Transmission
Replies: 16
Views: 2151

Re: ChNNR Transmission

bryandavis wrote:I can and will go to a teaching / retreat when he comes to the east coast, usa.
Look forward to be able to see him in person, hopefully sooner than later.
Will keep my eyes on the schedule of events coming in 2014. :twothumbsup:
Will be July, http://www.melong.com/retreats.html
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:41 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: ChNNR Transmission
Replies: 16
Views: 2151

Re: ChNNR Transmission

yeah, only a week to go until the next retreat :smile:

...let's hope the Tenerife connection has improved by then.
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:24 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: ChNNR Transmission
Replies: 16
Views: 2151

Re: ChNNR Transmission

yep :(
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:41 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

What I am today, is also a result of a supernova explosion, motion of every particle in the universe throughout billions of years. Picking up causes that can be related to Self, does not make up theory of Karma true. Actually, for Karma to be true, you would have to negate the causes unrelated to s...
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:51 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Do you have a good analogy for cessation? Is it more like stopping swimming when you are surrounded by milk wearing scuba gear, or is it more like floating around the hole in a donut before landing in the sugary doughy goo? that is making me hungry. :rolling: . . . and I'm having trouble getting Ho...
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:43 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Do you have a good analogy for cessation?

Is it more like stopping swimming when you are surrounded by milk wearing scuba gear, or is it more like floating around the hole in a donut before landing in the sugary doughy goo?
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:18 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

I perceive... things I cannot see, hear, touch, taste and smell. huh? :thinking: No, what I said was, I perceive space, and I perceive it filled with things I can see, hear, touch, taste and smell, and things I cannot see, hear, touch, taste and smell. Perhaps that wasn't clear enough. I should hav...
by futerko
Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:13 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

PadmaVonSamba wrote:I perceive... things I cannot see, hear, touch, taste and smell.
huh? :thinking:
by futerko
Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:02 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Big/Tall Tree With Sharp Thorns !!
Replies: 31
Views: 6006

Re: The Big/Tall Tree With Sharp Thorns !!

I'm not saying I don't believe it, please note. Just that I don't understand it and am not so sure it's meant literally. If it is supposed to be literal, then I am reminded of one person's near-death experience in which he was being dragged against his will by demons (he described them as "black pl...
by futerko
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:47 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Big/Tall Tree With Sharp Thorns !!
Replies: 31
Views: 6006

Re: The Big/Tall Tree With Sharp Thorns !!

...since it makes some sense as long as you don't think about it too much. What does make sense is that consciousness is conditioned by things occurring throughout a much wider timeline than our own, and that stuff like; the english language, flushing toilets, nuclear warheads, etc. all have an imp...
by futerko
Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:30 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Big/Tall Tree With Sharp Thorns !!
Replies: 31
Views: 6006

Re: The Big/Tall Tree With Sharp Thorns !!

...since it makes some sense as long as you don't think about it too much. What does make sense is that consciousness is conditioned by things occurring throughout a much wider timeline than our own, and that stuff like; the english language, flushing toilets, nuclear warheads, etc. all have an imp...
by futerko
Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:14 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

So no intrinsically self-arising thing originates, but then the question remains, what does originate (if anything at all)? No, that is not the question that remains. The question that remains is, "what arises?". What arises is the interaction of awareness and objects of awareness. if you want to k...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:47 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

No, it means that no thing originates. In other words, in dependent origination, there is no intrinsically, self-asising thing. You seem to be suggesting that something originates which is somehow not a thing. No, I clarified that: no intrinsically, self-arising thing So no intrinsically self-arisi...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:15 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Malcolm wrote:Time depends on objects, when objects cannot be ascertained, neither can time.
Precisely.
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:47 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Let me come back to this... The logical consequence of dependent origination is that nothing originates No, it means that no thing originates. In other words, in dependent origination, there is no intrinsically, self-asising thing. You seem to be suggesting that something originates which is somehow...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:14 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Don't confuse "not knowing how to get out of the woods" with "not knowing that one is lost". The outcome is different for two people lost in the woods, one who knows they have been walking in the wrong direction, and the other who doesn't. . . . Indeed, and how do they know that they are in the woo...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:10 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Right, and therefore such things that, "are experienced as such by the unenlightened mind" cannot possibly form the basis for a cogent explanation of temporality. Do you know whether you are enlightened or not? By your reasoning, if you are not enlightened, how can you possibly know? You would have...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:12 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Time and causality are "in mind" phenomena, which taken as concrete facts of existence, would render Buddhism an utterly pointless exercise in futility. "taken as concrete facts of existence" is not the point. they are experienced as such by the unenlightened mind. Dharma, which cuts through illusi...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:04 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

Nagarjuna and all his followers deny that there is "an endless beginningless uncreated field of reality". Shengtopas, like me, accept is though. They deny the "field of reality" part, not the "endless beginningless uncreated" part. They agree on "endless/beginningless", but I think that Nagarjuna (...
by futerko
Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:49 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH
Replies: 197
Views: 13401

Re: BASIS FOR KARMA / REBIRTH

smcj wrote:Nagarjuna and all his followers deny that there is "an endless beginningless uncreated field of reality". Shengtopas, like me, accept is though.
They deny the "field of reality" part, not the "endless beginningless uncreated" part.

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