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by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

How can you define reality without reference to unchanging essence? what makes things identical (or recognizable) through time except reference to an unchanging essence that endures change? This was the intended section of that post vis-a-vis defining reality without positing an unchanging essence:...
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

Bundokji wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:08 pm
By reducing what is real to the presence of an unchanging essence would be be missing the point of what is it that makes things "real" in the first place except an underlying value.
Please note this previous post. There is no need for an unchanging essence to define reality.
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

Grigoris wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 2:58 pm
So you believe that in the immaterial realms there is no sense of self?
I did not specify the nature of a possible referent for the idea of a self. Furthermore, four of the five aggregates are not material, so it is quite normal if one identifies with something other than the body.
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 3:03 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: What are the most minimalist or simplest forms or schools of Buddhism?
Replies: 54
Views: 1101

Re: What are the most minimalist or simplest forms or schools of Buddhism?

What are the most minimalist or simplest forms or schools of Buddhism? The four noble truths are said to be both the summary ( SN 56.31 ) and the all encompassing ( MN 28 ) teaching of the Buddha. What is highlighted in Mahayana as the essential teaching is prajnaparamita (e.g. Heart Sutra), and th...
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

A mental action is still an action and thus has a "causal efficacy", even if it is just mental. Don't forget that there are entire realms that are merely mental. Are they not "real"? As a thought, yes. But when one talks of a self, it is generally not understood to be merely a thought, but that it ...
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

Hold on to your horses partner: "You may well accept, monks, the assumption of a self-theory from the acceptance of which there would not arise sorrow and lamentation, pain, grief, and despair. (But) do you see, monks, any such assumption of a self-theory?" — "No, Lord." — "Well, monks, I, too, do ...
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

Wayfarer wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 9:57 am
‘That context’ is existence, life and the living of it.
That "existence, life and the living of it" is a conceptual construct of how things are.
by Astus
Fri May 22, 2020 9:08 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

What's your interpretation of Attakārī Sutta: The Self-Doer where the Buddha asks: How, indeed, could one — moving forward by himself, moving back by himself — say ‘There is no self-doer, there is no other-doer’? Right view has two parts: the right view of karma, and the right view of the noble tru...
by Astus
Thu May 21, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

So one can apply that for the self as well. To say: "There is no self" is nihilistic view. "There is no ultimately existing self" is what Buddha taught. The assumption of any form of self is a mistake. If there were some sort of reality to it, it wouldn't be wrong to believe in it. "Monks, you woul...
by Astus
Thu May 21, 2020 3:52 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

The opposite of ethernalism is here annihilationism. That specific discourse is about the origin of suffering, whether the agent (who creates the cause of suffering) is identical to the subject (who experiences the effect: suffering) or different from it. You can take it either as referring to diff...
by Astus
Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

Then the person who asked says: "but who feels: Now I am free..I have freed myself by means of the path. Who feels that" 'Who feels?' is the wrong question. Dependent origination is the middle view because it shows cause and effect without an agent or subject. Please consider the following teaching...
by Astus
Tue May 19, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Nihilistic view
Replies: 124
Views: 2461

Re: Nihilistic view

Which masters taught at what time in history of Buddhism about the nihilistic point of view? First of all, it should be clarified what is meant by "nihilism". It is normally understood as a denial of moral values, something that is clearly a wrong view according to any Buddhist. If we understand it...
by Astus
Sun May 17, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Soto
Topic: Susho Itto
Replies: 3
Views: 144

Re: Susho Itto

As you might already know of it, zazen is what they call the suññatā-samādhi and animitta-samādhi in Theravada (e.g. MN 121 ), and also where the Buddha taught "In what is seen there must be only what is seen", etc. (e.g. Ud 1.10 ). It is without proliferation (nippapañca), without conceptualisation...
by Astus
Fri May 15, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Best books on general Mahayana Buddhism
Replies: 12
Views: 408

Re: Best books on general Mahayana Buddhism

I am interested in some books about the history of Mahayana Buddhism and a general overview of it's schools, lineages, and practices. I realize much of this information is available via the web, however I would ask for book recommendations as I quite prefer a physical book. The Golden Age of Indian...
by Astus
Mon May 11, 2020 8:17 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?
Replies: 50
Views: 1602

Re: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?

This 'looking into' is not a simple nor a casual matter. That is what wisdom is for that is developed through learning, reflection, and cultivation. "Having ascertained through scripture And through reasoning that phenomena Are not produced nor inherently existent, Meditate without conceptuality." ...
by Astus
Sun May 10, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?
Replies: 50
Views: 1602

Re: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?

Typically things are either illusions, or not. Illusion-like would usually be applied to something that seems like an illusion, but isn't. If it were an illusion, it would just be called an illusion. "All phenomena arise in dependence. There is no phenomenon that can remain constantly. All phenomen...
by Astus
Fri May 08, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?
Replies: 50
Views: 1602

Re: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?

Dgj wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 3:27 pm
Arising, duration and cessation of ultimate entities as incorrectly posited by the Sarvastivadins does not occur.
"Just as cessation is imputed
On the disintegration of an arisen entity;
So too the sublime ones accept
Cessation that is illusion-like."

(Sixyt Stanzas of Reasoning, v 7)
by Astus
Thu May 07, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Soto
Topic: Jhanas and Vipassana...its all in the eyes?
Replies: 18
Views: 877

Re: Jhanas and Vipassana...its all in the eyes?

Is this still the process in Soto Zen Zazen? If so how do things like Nimitta occur if the eyes are open....or maybe it does? Zen in general is a "unified" or rather simultaneous practice of samatha/samadhi and vipasyana/prajna, so it's not one after another. Practising with nimitta, that's a uniqu...
by Astus
Thu May 07, 2020 7:38 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?
Replies: 50
Views: 1602

Re: What possible reason could there be to study or practice Buddhism if arising and ceasing do not occur?

If no arising nor ceasing occur then the twelve links are meaningless, reduced to nonsense. It should always be kept in mind that many of the Mahayana ideas developed from or against Sarvastivada doctrine. In this case, the Sarvastivada abhidharma teachings say that production/birth (jati), duratio...

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