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by Mariusz
Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:46 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Most terma are not physical earth terma but mind terma. Even then an object or script, revealed ordinarily or miraculously by melting rock or from sky etc, only serves as a key to the long complex process of terma revelation from the terton's mind in almost but not all cases. Though as a child ChNN...
by Mariusz
Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:41 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Dudjom Lingpa is another example of a terton who's treasures came from visions. These were more like day-dreams. New treasures appear because, as Malcolm said, when you practice while the terton is alive, you get tremendous blessing energy. So the new treasures refresh the well so to speak. That's ...
by Mariusz
Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:46 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

As I wrote traditional terma is from a terton, the person from the time of orginal masters of Dzogchen who discovers again their techings, like for example Pema Lingpa. It appears that Chogyal Namkhai Norbu is not that kind of terton. He is a different kind of terton. Can you elaborate please? What...
by Mariusz
Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:30 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

That depends on what you mean by "new complete system" -- completely new methods of visualizing the channels, different exercises etc or basically similar methods received through a new transmission. If it's the first, technically even Guru Padmasambahava didn't create his own "new complete system"...
by Mariusz
Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:09 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Namkhai Norbu said in open webcast these pure dreams can have everybody (of course if before Rigpa is recognized)... Is it means everybody can create the new complete system of Dzogchen according to the pure dreams and not having necessary the contact with the orginal masters of Dzogchen, and calle...
by Mariusz
Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:41 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

The klong chen 'od gsal mkha' mgro snying thig aka Longsal teachings, is a complete and independent cycle of teachings which contains various teachings on Dzogchen (sems sde, klong sde and man ngag sde), related anuyoga cycles such as Mandarava, Gomadevi and Jn̄anadakini, and various kinds of compl...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:54 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

In some sense it's terma if you think it is. Take the example of Khenpo Gangshar. He went around telling his little teachings that summarize the path. He didn't receive it in a dream or in the earth or whatever. They come from his experience. When people received his teachings many spoke about the ...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:40 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

I quoted only the open webcasts I watched. I don't quote any closed webcast. And what was so non-buddhist about them? When you will check my post, I questioned if they are or if the are not buddhist? I hope they are only buddhist :smile: Reincarnations of Pemasel are already listed in the terma.
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:57 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Again on non-buddhist experiments with Dzogchen. We will see if they will arise. Of course good luck. Heh, I guess you didn't read Yontan's story about Gangteng Tulku Rinpoche. Thank you Pero. I very like serious discussion. Can you elaborate the story? Namkhai Norbu started from Buddhism but now H...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:35 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

No need for me. Namkhai Norbu started from Buddhism but now He mainly teach from His dreams as I listened the webcasts. Not at all, he makes reference to standard Buddhist literature in every retreat and quotes from the Sutras. He gives empowerments and other transmissions for the Longsal teachings...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:03 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

And because that is realy a Bon topic it better can be left KY Bon Not Bon Buddhist practicing Dzogchen, not-Buddhist but practicing Dzogchen etc. etc. etc. Nothing but divisive speech--class warfare in a sense. Stop it so people can all just see themselves as practitioners and get along. You have ...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:27 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

I strongly suspect that few outside of the purview of Tenzing Gyatso would recognise Bon as Buddhism anyway kalden yungdren...but no matter. Please feel free to take " your " forum back...and welcome to it. Again on non-buddhist experiments with Dzogchen. We will see if they will arise. Of course g...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:27 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

If you speak dzogchen, ChNN is incontrovertible! Sönam That is sure your private opinion, no doubt about it. :D It sounds like propaganda or advertisement as the best here and there. Better to discuss general topics, which are agreed by all Dzogchen Traditions. KY Incontrovertible means not able to...
by Mariusz
Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:38 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?
Replies: 126
Views: 23233

Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

For all interested people: ChNN is giving a wonderful teaching on tögal. He even permitted people to come who have never before received teachings or transmission. Anyone who asked him was allowed to come or so I understand. There are 1100 people in attendance from all over the world. This is proba...
by Mariusz
Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:48 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?
Replies: 126
Views: 23233

Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

For all interested people: ChNN is giving a wonderful teaching on tögal. He even permitted people to come who have never before received teachings or transmission. Anyone who asked him was allowed to come or so I understand. There are 1100 people in attendance from all over the world. This is proba...
by Mariusz
Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:19 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: The Art of Letting Go, aka Silly Me
Replies: 9
Views: 1290

Re: The Art of Letting Go, aka Silly Me

Some five or six weeks ago I read some things on That Thread that made me react rather badly to a series of thoughts expressed by some members here, mostly Malcolm. I was, without really knowing it at the time, struggling with some last-ditch grasping and clinging, as I am so good at. In that case ...
by Mariusz
Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:17 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 5578
Views: 491713

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Our "job" is to found our real nature ... what is happening externally concernes the karmic landscape, this is not where the real game is played. Eating meat is part of that karmic landscape ... real game is not there. Sönam On the contrary. Until our real nature is not found yet, there is really t...
by Mariusz
Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:33 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations
Replies: 242
Views: 23916

Re: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations

When Guru Rinpoche thaught Yeshe Tsogyal about all dharmas and dharmata, he said that all dharmas are whether wholesome, unwholesome or neutral phenomena. Dharmata means that all are empty in essence, empty by nature, empty by characteristics. Dharmata is the realization that ALL phenomena arise fr...
by Mariusz
Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:49 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations
Replies: 242
Views: 23916

Re: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations

I don't see what it has to do with being a Buddhist or not. Dzogchen Tantras have teachings on the bardo. Actually I'm not entirely sure if they're not actually their source. No need for protest because of the reincarnation. Buddhists are familiar with the term reincarnation according to 12 links. ...
by Mariusz
Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:08 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations
Replies: 242
Views: 23916

Re: Dzogchen Teaching is Free From Limitations

I don't see what it has to do with being a Buddhist or not. Dzogchen Tantras have teachings on the bardo. Actually I'm not entirely sure if they're not actually their source. No need for protest because of the reincarnation. Buddhists are familiar with the term reincarnation according to 12 links. ...

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