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by conebeckham
Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:51 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan madhyamaka
Replies: 314
Views: 21968

Re: Tibetan madhyamaka

There is the appearance of the parts, and the "labelling" of the parts as a person. This word "labelling" strikes me as a conceptual thing--in other words, the mental consciousness would consciously act to "label" the appearance of the collection of parts as the "person." This does happen, I think--...
by conebeckham
Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:47 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan madhyamaka
Replies: 314
Views: 21968

Re: Tibetan madhyamaka

to say something does not exist truly even on the level of "the seeming" is not to say that it doesnt exist at all. this is the whole point of middleway. to say that this is nihilism is to say what mindonly has always historically been saying in general, namely that middleway are nihilists It doesn...
by conebeckham
Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:23 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

It's not that simple! For example, would I say Rangjung Dorje is Buddha, but Pawo Tsuklag Trengwa isn't? Their "explanations" often contradict each other, after all....heck, 8th Karmapa and 3rd Karmapa can be said to contradict! :smile: Some Lama I can't recall, a Nyingmapa no doubt :smile: , said "...
by conebeckham
Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:10 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

Omniscience is not Buddhahood. It is, however, one of the qualities of Buddhahood. There's some disagreement about what it means--for example, there's the view that takes "omniscience" as knowing the true nature of all things....the Truth that all phenomena are ultimately emptiness. Therefore, when ...
by conebeckham
Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:13 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Tibetan madhyamaka
Replies: 314
Views: 21968

Re: Tibetan madhyamaka

although mindonly emptiness is certainly something we would want to see, theres a pretty big between that and emptiness of inherent existence And there's a difference between emptiness of existence, and emptiness of inherent existence. As for the designation of "self," from your earlier query--- wh...
by conebeckham
Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:04 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Question for you guys
Replies: 39
Views: 5095

Re: Question for you guys

If one practices correctly and diligently, one begins to cease to be a slave to one's ego and pride, though.
Well, THERE is the secret, huh?!?


Bingo.
by conebeckham
Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:19 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

...and, You know, we've got a thread on "Tibetan Madhaymika"--how is it that this thread has morphed into a thread about Madhyamika?
by conebeckham
Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:22 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

but the way gelugs understand negatives and the way your system does are not the same. you believe that things are established in dependence upon their parts. we say even the parts are set up by conceptuality. Where did you get your information about how "my system" understands negatives? I can ass...
by conebeckham
Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:21 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: Guru Rinpoche Day
Replies: 4
Views: 847

Re: Guru Rinpoche Day

Well, every day CAN be Guru Rinpoche day.

But in Tibetan Tradition, the 10th Day of every lunar month is Guru Rinpoche Day....Vajrayana practitioners have celebratory pujas and tsok feasts on these days.
by conebeckham
Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:10 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

TMingyur- First off, all the teachings, even those we classify as Ultimate rather than Provisional, are in some sense "provisional," given that the reality of the Buddha is beyond conceptual comprehension--it is inconceivable, literally. Chandrakirti says this, as does Tsong Khapa. The "analytical" ...
by conebeckham
Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:23 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from Western Canada!
Replies: 12
Views: 1660

Re: Hi from Western Canada!

Hi Cone! You been to my new site yet?
Just now, in fact! Very nice!
by conebeckham
Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:00 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from Western Canada!
Replies: 12
Views: 1660

Re: Hi from Western Canada!

Hey, I know you!

:smile:

Nice to see you here.
by conebeckham
Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:59 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

I think I agree and understand what you're saying--I think. I don't see "Emptiness" as nihilistic either. The understanding (or, even, the experience) that conditioned phenomena, and also the mental consciousness that cognizes, are unconstrained, unlimited, free from reference and beyond elaboration...
by conebeckham
Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:04 pm
Forum: Kagyu
Topic: Shangpa Kagyu Site
Replies: 0
Views: 560

Shangpa Kagyu Site

http://www.shangpa.net

Lots of information regarding this lineage, for those interested...
by conebeckham
Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:22 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

I'm not following completely... But I think Emptiness is, in a sense, "self-referring" as well. Whether we discuss the Emptiness of Self, or the Emptiness of Phenomena, in either case, there is no Emptiness other than that which is either cognized conceptually by sentient beings or "known directly" ...
by conebeckham
Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:57 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

...but so is any idea we may have of Emptiness.
by conebeckham
Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:58 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

Now....the IDEA of Buddha Nature is a thought, and nothing more. It is a concept--and empty of existence. See the 3rd Karmapa, again, earlier in this thread. Any "IDEA" we may have of Buddha Nature is just that.....
by conebeckham
Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:44 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

LRCM? Que? Anyway.....regarding Buddha Nature.... As I noted, there are various views regarding whether Buddha Nature is an existent, an ultimate, --or whether it is a potentiality, or an expedient teaching. If you go back and read the quotes from Rangjung Dorje, 3rd Karmapa, you can see that his po...
by conebeckham
Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:22 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

This thread is about Buddha Nature. As can be seen, there are various positions regarding whether Buddha Nature is an expedient or an absolute. Whether it is pedagogical, or ontological. Whether it is reconcilable with Madhyamika and with Sunyata (emptiness). But let's talk about emptiness. As has b...
by conebeckham
Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:33 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Buddha-nature
Replies: 195
Views: 13651

Re: Buddha-nature

Not all Kagyupas are "Emptiness of other," and even those who may identify as such may not be of the same pursuasion as, say, Dolpopa.

There are a spectrum of views.

More, later.

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