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by LastLegend
Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 2126

Re: in defense

Meido’s posts on this forum stand in stark contrast to this “It’s all empty, bro” bullshit. He is someone who studied and practiced Zen in a very complete way. I suspect the “it’s all empty, bro” bullshit is just a way of people disguising their ignorance. Sometimes it can actually start to feel li...
by LastLegend
Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 2126

Re: in defense

Peter, my experience, such as it is, has been largely with Seon. I have corresponded with, attended talks, short retreats and sat with Zen teachers, but not studied to any depth with them. And of course I don't have any data, but I am not the one making claims. As for the number of teachers, why co...
by LastLegend
Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 2126

Re: in defense

6th Patriarch Chan, ‘Mirror is bright not because of the stage.’ That should sum up nature.
by LastLegend
Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 2126

Re: in defense

Why take it so seriously people? I personally don’t mind not to be categorized as Zen or original Chan. My point still stands that Chan from Hui Neng Patriarch has migrated to Mahaprajna which is Sutra based. However, doesn’t mean one can get direct introduction from reading the Sutra unless (in my ...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 2126

Re: in defense

As I read some of the topics in the Zen sub-forum, I’m discouraged that all too often Zen topics become opportunities for non-Zennists to criticize Zen and Zen teachers. It seems to me, and perhaps I’m being overly sensitive, that Zen, and especially Western Zen, and more especially Western Soto Ze...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 2126

Re: in defense

As I read some of the topics in the Zen sub-forum, I’m discouraged that all too often Zen topics become opportunities for non-Zennists to criticize Zen and Zen teachers. It seems to me, and perhaps I’m being overly sensitive, that Zen, and especially Western Zen, and more especially Western Soto Ze...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:20 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

I don't agree. If one understands what "Buddha mind" is well enough, one would not need to rely on scriptures, as not needing to rely on scriptures is what "well enough" would mean to begin with. The sutras cover the whole path up to buddhahood. A bodhisattva is someone who is dedicated to master a...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Where do people see that an Arahant has vows? If he does, he is considered a Bodhisattva. Only in Mahayana, we see Ancient Buddhas such Samantabhadra, Avalokitesvara, Amitabha, Medicine Buddha, etc have vows! Why doesn’t Shakyamuni Buddha have any vows? Why are there so many Shakyamuni around Mahava...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

People try too hard to blur the line between fruit of Arahant and absolute emptiness-absolute non-self (unless one chooses to stop after transcending to it), to avoid sectarian I guess. It’s very clear Mahaprajnaparamitas Sutras are not part of Arahant teaching. Mahaprajna transcends all duality (co...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:57 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Keep in mind ‘congruence’ is very foreign to the two or second vehicle. They cannot transcend individual (not to say there isn’t individual), and this can be quickly understood when referencing Mahaprajnaparamita Sutras, platform sutras, heart Sutra, etc.
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

I don't agree. If one understands what "Buddha mind" is well enough, one would not need to rely on scriptures, as not needing to rely on scriptures is what "well enough" would mean to begin with. The sutras cover the whole path up to buddhahood. A bodhisattva is someone who is dedicated to master a...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

I have not yet met a Zen teacher who claimed to be fully enlightened, free of all obscurations. I think the claim that a teacher needs to be fully enlightened in order to transmit is false. But yes, a teacher can only transmit what he or she has. For instance, a teacher can guide students towards k...
by LastLegend
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Yes there is such a claim. If the original claim is "that members of the lineage are on the same level of awakening as the Buddha himself" that is no different than saying "9th bhumi still just isn't good enough" since 9th bhumi, is by definition, not the same as Buddha himself. If the transmission...
by LastLegend
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen lay practitioner in the current job market environment
Replies: 4
Views: 321

Re: Zen lay practitioner in the current job market environment

JoaoRodrigues wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:47 pm Wouldn’t that be nice?
Do they have a Walmart in a mountain near you?
I go to Walmart and I live in a city.
by LastLegend
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Yes, and to assert that a person who has reached the 8th or 9th Bhumi, or the equivalent of whatever other scale that is used, to claim that that person has no idea what that is and therefore can't teach anyone about it, or guide anyone to it, I don't think that is reasonable. Such a person would h...
by LastLegend
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen lay practitioner in the current job market environment
Replies: 4
Views: 321

Re: Zen lay practitioner in the current job market environment

Start by saying it's no my intend to make this thread political in any kind, shape or form. The current system in any developed country teach you from an early age, that if you do not study what they plan on teaching you, you'll end up doing the kind of jobs no one wants to do, at least they tell y...
by LastLegend
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 230
Views: 9472

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

A satisfactory level awakening. What is that level? I don't see anything in any of the above that dictates that only 100% full, complete, perfection is the only thing that is satisfactory. Then let me highlight some passages and words from the above quotes. 'the Buddha recognized that one of his fo...
by LastLegend
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:30 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Basis for vipaka being individual
Replies: 20
Views: 711

Re: Basis for vipaka being individual

“...But the nature of karma seems to be to affect only the aggregates of the individual...” ...and that’s the whole point. It’s all fabricated as an extension of this undeniable experience of a “self” . It’s like Monopoly game money: it has meaning and value only as long as we pretend the little pl...
by LastLegend
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Basis for vipaka being individual
Replies: 20
Views: 711

Re: Basis for vipaka being individual

I personally don’t think that we are able to see this clearly beyond intellectual until transcending to great emptiness, namely separating emptiness from appearance (consciousness). Emptiness cannot possess a self, so in this respect how come there is a distinction of whose karma, and yet consciousn...
by LastLegend
Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Are all phenomena equally empty in Madhyamaka?
Replies: 20
Views: 865

Re: Are all phenomena equally empty in Madhyamaka?

I have a background in Theravada, and I'm trying to understand Madhyamaka philosophy. As I understand it, according to Madhyamaka all phenomena are empty of inherent existance (svabhava) meaning they exist only nominally, or dependently. This applies to the Self, Brahman as well as aggregates like ...

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