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by yagmort
Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:11 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

ngöndro is a good practice to break through the habits and resistance of our rational mind. our mind always seeks entertainment and distraction. if you try to keep it on one subject for any long, it quickly became bored and loose attention. so it creates lots and lots of procrastination. if you didn...
by yagmort
Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:42 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

Malcolm, following that logic things like tonglen did also exist in first eon? you said it yourself it did not existed in India, so if mahasiddhas of India didn't do ngöndro and all the early kagyu masters - like Milarepa, Rechungpa, Ngamdzong Repa, Lingrepa and so forth - are not mentioned of doing...
by yagmort
Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:31 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

so the partial answer to my question would be that ngöndro first been explicitly mentioned in the late 12-th century in the work by Nyang Rel Nyima Özer. But it still remains unclear when have 111000 accumulation part been added as a requirement? The fact that Vajrasattva should be recited "one hund...
by yagmort
Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:19 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

It isn't your thread yagmort. It is not. Did i say otherwise? I post as I see fit. So do others If you got something else to post than your unsubstantiated claims I am looking forward to it... nobody is obliged to proof anything to you. So far the info Lay-May have provided were much more "substant...
by yagmort
Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:16 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

heart wrote:..There are really no proof of there being any "evolution of the Ngondro", we only got your unsubstantiated claims...

please don't visit this thread if you neither interested nor helpful. you didn't provide any "proof" of your own, we only got your unsubstantiated grunt so far.
by yagmort
Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:06 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

...I am not trying to understand the origins of the actual 4 extra-orgniary practices themselves... hey Lay-Man, why not?) besides 111000 accumulation question i would be glad to know when have prostrations been introduced. from what i understand guru-yoga, Vajrasattva and mandala offering existed ...
by yagmort
Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:14 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

so do they have 100000 accumulation since 13th century or that part have been introduced later? on a side note it is above my head how anyone can accomplish such a task in 100 days let alone 49. i am doing 1200-1300 full prostrations a day and i guess it is close to my limits. if you do short prostr...
by yagmort
Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

mutsuk, what do they comprise of?
by yagmort
Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:37 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

yes magnus, finally! :hi: )) my question is "fixated" on numbers, or better say on accumulating 111000 of them.
by asking such a question i am not arguing about benefits or disadvantages of ngöndro. merely, as i am not a scholar myself, i am asking more informed and educated people.
by yagmort
Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:39 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

Layman, thank you for your efforts and time! also thanks Malcolm for your attempts to shine the light on this subject too ...Related to the texts referred to by Heart, I have not been able to dive into the cited texts without ordering them as I have found no versions online... perhaps magnus will fi...
by yagmort
Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:47 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

Lay-man will you please share your results?
by yagmort
Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:36 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

well i am not questioning benefits of ngöndro, i already done 90k prostrations and doing ~900 each day. my question is about history research of ngöndro. one of the most widely accepted and practiced well..practice) and yet i haven't found any source which would say when it was decided that you have...
by yagmort
Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

I gave you to source texts, it wasn't god enough? /magnus wait...you seriously believe that i could spent 100 euro to order books from amazon to India, then received them and have read them, all that in 24 hours? just because some guy on the net suggested them but at the same time can't be more hel...
by yagmort
Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:48 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

i don't understand you guys. i thought i asked simple question. so far seems only Lay-man have understood and attempted to answer.
by yagmort
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:15 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

i don't think anyone doubts practices like guru-yoga, Vajrasattva or mandala offerings haven't existed prior ngöndro. that is why i emphasize the 111000 accumulation part of all 4 (or 5, if we count bodhicitta separately), with additional question about prostrations - of course it's not uncommon to ...
by yagmort
Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:24 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Mantra Recitation - Do You Do Enough?
Replies: 103
Views: 13183

Re: Mantra Recitation - Do You Do Enough?

...Four sessions a day, approximately 3 to 3 1/2 hours each session...so, about 2500 a session. I finished these in a retreat of about 5 days--but only the last two days were 10,000/day affairs. The first three days I gradually worked up. I had about 30,00 left to do at the beginning of this retrea...
by yagmort
Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:04 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?
Replies: 239
Views: 26190

Re: Did the 84 mahasiddhas practice Ngöndro?

so does anybody know when did the ngondro the way it is practiced today - that is accumulating 111000 of each -
first appear?
by yagmort
Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:47 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen View on Soma
Replies: 18
Views: 2091

Re: Dzogchen View on Soma

When I was in college a kid took acid and ended up jumping from a 10 story tower. Real harmless stuff huh? Man, this is like the archetypal scary story. I've heard it many times apllied to weed, mushrooms, lsd and what not. Is it reliable verified information or just some gossips? I am not saying t...
by yagmort
Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:45 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen View on Soma
Replies: 18
Views: 2091

Re: Dzogchen View on Soma

...Psychedelics are most definitely intoxicants, drugs... respectfully disagree. disregard the actual toxicity ie harmness of a substance for the body or its capacity to impair ethical values and discerment, i would simply say that intoxicant is the substance which effect takes you away from truth....
by yagmort
Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:58 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen View on Soma
Replies: 18
Views: 2091

Re: Dzogchen View on Soma

i wish some open-minded lamas like Dzongsar Khyentse would take mushrooms or lsd to give their opinion about those substances. i guess substances like lsd or psilocybin doesn't fall into drug/itoxicants category. physically they are safe and mentally they hold many benefits. it's not uncommon to rea...

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