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Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:28 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

That is a truely baseless accusation on Dzogchen & Dzogchenpas without a reference. Just like the Tamils who falsely call Buddhists war criminals! I prefer the missionary zeal of duty-bound Jyoti & frank posts of Tiger. Personally I like it when people do not roll over & play dead & wronged falsely...
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:12 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

username: I truly am quite sad you feel that way. My words were never intended to reflect any disrespect of the Dzogchen teaching. It is difficult, but I even try to respect those Dzogchenpa who claim all other Buddhists are practicing for naught. :namaste: That is a truely baseless accusation on D...
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:48 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

I suppose I am not 'welcome' to post in this forum, but I read it from time to time and have been reading this topic, and have an observation. Joyti is correct when she says Dzogchen tantras cannot be said to contain definitive meaning Really? That is not true. The opposite is true. You, Jyoti & Ti...
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Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:29 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 6099
Views: 546690

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Onto the webcast connection issue: In my opinion the problems are different. In Romania there was an upload problem which is a typical issue when outside of Western Europe & North America as broadband upload speeds (not the usual mentioned download speed) & reliability is not consistent in reality d...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:20 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 6099
Views: 546690

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

That's it. Don't know if it has Tibetan root text. Ideally they should re-edit it adding current week's teachings as they usually combine & edit many teachings on same subject for one book.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:00 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

The main limitation in yogacara as opposed to Dzogchen is that it is conceptual, in 3 times only & stuck at cause & effects level all of which stops at that level due to their limitation at not being able to go beyond alayavijnana. Even then various schools argued how it functions & where it's stora...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:05 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 6099
Views: 546690

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

He said he is giving lung today so hopefully people can then read the root text and explanations of this practice too when it comes out. The root text pdf files or longsal histories have no explanation though. The paragraph describing the booklet used to say this is a teaching in which his root guru...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:20 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Replies: 6099
Views: 546690

Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

He said it will come out but my impression was he may have meant it might. I Think he was referring not just to the root text but said also an explanation booklet on this essential pithy practice for kaliyuga. However he has been teaching so many things recently not all might turn into books. So hav...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:37 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

Yes maybe in Nalanda & other Indian centers instead of famous historic recorded infighting & debates they just had love-ins. All the best.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:19 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

Every intermediate level Mahayanist knows there were various schools and trends who fought each other over what dcotrine or sutra or interpretation was definitive within Mahayana. I have been in chinese mahayana forum long before this, they are the one who point me to these guidelines, I never witn...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:51 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

And how did you confirm that mahayana scriptures are definitive? On what base? ... how could you know that YOUR confirmation is definitive? Sönam Below is some from the scriptures I have translated before regarding what is definitive or otherwise: In the Mahāvaipulya mahāsamghāta sūtra it is stated...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:48 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

No you don't understand basic statements & questions put to you hence your evasion of them & why you can not possibly understand never mind apply the four reliances reliably. Let me explain in simpler language. Dzogchen says it is a vehicle. You are interested in it. You take teachings & empowermen...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:01 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

I suppose I am not 'welcome' to post in this forum, but I read it from time to time and have been reading this topic, and have an observation. Joyti is correct when she says Dzogchen tantras cannot be said to contain definitive meaning: The term "tantra" is just a general word in Sanskrit that mean...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:17 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

That is perfectly fine for a Mahayanist to state & we understand. However you can not take Dzogchen teachings, then say Dzogchen is talking garbage when it says it has samayas as you did, or it is higher & more definitive than Mahayana. This is not Mahayana, which does not accept taking Dzogchen te...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:53 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

Jyoti wrote:
Sherlock wrote: Do you realise that Hinayana followers would say the same thing about the sutras you believe are definitive?
Yes, been there!
You'll get here too! :smile:
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:45 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

That is perfectly fine for a Mahayanist to state & we understand. However you can not take Dzogchen teachings, then say Dzogchen is talking garbage when it says it has samayas as you did, or it is higher & more definitive than Mahayana. This is not Mahayana, which does not accept taking Dzogchen te...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:10 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

However one can not mix in a higher vehicle with a lower one & then claim the lower one is definitive. This is illogical & in that case one should only stick to one's own chosen lower vehicle, ie:Mahayana or Hinayana. Correct, but dzogchen is not higher than yogacara as I have indicated in this thr...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:54 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

The sutras accepted by mahayana (accepted by Vajrayana too as mahayana is it's subset) run into thousands of pages. No academic or serious Buddhist master believes Shakyamuni & disciples talked them & they were recorded & handed down word for word over 25 centuries ago. The sutras are like tantra & ...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:02 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Females who achieved rainbow body
Replies: 129
Views: 18394

Re: Females who achieved rainbow body

Username said: Conceptual vehicles' fruits do not really compare to the fruits of Dzogchen's 4 visions/thogal & if they claim so it is false. I'm not saying that you are wrong. I merely would like to point out that Garchen Rinpoche, a man widely believed to be realized in Dzogchen and Mahamudra, to...
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:39 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Yogacara and dzogchen
Replies: 394
Views: 33439

Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

Hi mutsuk. On your first point, that is just my impression. On your second point, I agree with what you said but I doubt this stage of her not wanting to accept certain basic points of Vajrayana/Dzogchen, some of which she also denies, will last for ever. I could be wrong though. I think at some sta...

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