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by treehuggingoctopus
Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:52 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchen Study
Replies: 33
Views: 2708

Re: Dzogchen Study

Don't get caught up in the bullshit. Oh, do I hear someone's voice in this one :-) Never become fooled into thinking "I get it"... because truly you can't "get it" conceptually. It can't be known within the traditional confines of acquiring intellectual knowledge. But the more concise the intellect...
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:21 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

If there was always an agreed convention, anyone could pick up The Will to Power and understand it immediately. But you did understand it, dear catmoon, the first time you read it. You understood it so clearly, in fact, that you were pretty much convinced Nieztsche is a proto-fascist :-) No communi...
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:14 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

catmoon wrote:In order to function as language, in order to communicate, there has to be a degree of agreed convention as well.
There is. There always is, otherwise no communication whatsoever would be possible. Only you can never find out where that 'agreed convention' is; you just can't point it out.
by treehuggingoctopus
Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:06 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

Oh, Blake and Nieztsche make a wonderful couple not only - but especially - regarding their use of language. The very same kind of attitude. Btw, one of Nieztsche's basic points (which - speaking of British Romantics - he makes after Shelley) is that language is never literal; there's no escape from...
by treehuggingoctopus
Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:33 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

@Gregkavarnos: You know, Karl Popper is just about as brilliant a reader of continental philosophy as Rambo is. The "state" Aemilius wrote about has got nothing to do with the "state" of political sciences. Marcuse is right, of course - Hegel was a nationalist, no doubt about that - but it's quite a...
by treehuggingoctopus
Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:27 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchenpa by Accident?
Replies: 225
Views: 13918

Re: Dzogchenpa by Accident?

Isn't it said that appearance and emptiness are dependent on one another. Without one, the other does not exist? Wouldn't this imply causality? I'm no specialist, but I'll try to take up your glove. Since emptiness is not a "thing", the "dependence" between appearance and emptiness is nothing like ...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:42 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Dzogchenpa by Accident?
Replies: 225
Views: 13918

Re: Dzogchenpa by Accident?

Wow. People. We're supposedly Vajra siblings, aren't we? Is there really a need to fight?
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:38 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

what i am saying is that if certain aspects of what they say are unacceptable how do we know that they don't use similiar prejudices in their line of thinking for the other ideas they have I didn't mean literal razing; I meant we discard and forget all the stuff that we don't agree with wholehearte...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:34 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Did I Receive Transmission?
Replies: 53
Views: 4024

Re: Did I Receive Transmission?

:good:
by treehuggingoctopus
Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:25 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

As far as I can tell, I think Nietzsche's point about suffering is that it can be treated as something like a fuel which animates a more 'noble' moral trajectory through life - or it can be treated as something to meekly avoid. It seems to me that his point is something like 'it takes a certain amo...
by treehuggingoctopus
Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:06 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

Well, if there's one, just one, self-evidfent 'fact' in the universe, it is that ultimately no-one would like to suffer - while everybody does; that is, even if someone derives some perverse pleasure from certain manifestations of dukkha, he or she will not find all of them pleasurable - some at lea...
by treehuggingoctopus
Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:45 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

Lhug-Pa wrote:he was a great Gnostic Initiate
He wasn't. Really. In no sense of the word.
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:38 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

Please note that, as has been said, "Will to Power" is not really a book; it is unfinished in every way; we don't know which parts of it were written by Nietzsche; in any rate it IS NOT representative of Nietzsche's "later phase" writings. In any case, to decide whether the aphorisms in "WtP" are to...
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:09 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

"Fascism attacks the whole complex of democratic ideologies and rejects them both in their theoretical premises and in their applications or practical manifestations. Fascism denies that the majority, through the mere fact of being a majority, can rule human societies; it denies that this majority ...
by treehuggingoctopus
Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:23 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

For instance his merciless approach to the weak and sick was implemented in the Nazi eradication of the Jews, the mentally ill, homosexuals, and gypsies. In fact anyone who was percieved to obstruct the emergence of the Ubermenschen was swept away, just as Nietzsche recommended, by declaring war on...
by treehuggingoctopus
Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:55 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Nietzsche

Dar Catmoon, 1. Do you really believe the the thinkers I mentioned - "Marcuse & the rest of the famous Frankfurters, Foucault, Derrida (plus his numerous Tel Quel associates and followers), Rorty and, perhaps especially, Deleuze" are "nutbars" and in any way "political extremists"? Have you ever rea...
by treehuggingoctopus
Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:34 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Does this render the Buddhism redundant?

But it's a very long bow to draw a link between his work and Nazism - this usually happens when people take a couple of aphorisms from his unpublished late notebooks completely out of context. The metaphysics of the will to power is a critique of essence, not a fascist political philosophy. True th...
by treehuggingoctopus
Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:47 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Does this render the Buddhism redundant?

Nietzsche declared "God is dead". Not really. He declared, and took some pains to justify his declaration, that God is just a fiction - and a useless and most dangerous one, too. He was also anything but a scientific materialist - unlike Batchelor, who evidently is. Which is very disappointing inde...
by treehuggingoctopus
Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:20 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Nietzsche
Replies: 105
Views: 4810

Re: Does this render the Buddhism redundant?

There are better authors, like Alan Wallace for instance. Or David R. Loy. Or Peter Hershock. The funny thing about Batchelor is that he claims to be oh-so-cutting-edge and comes in fact straight from the late 18th century. As if the last two hundred years had never happened. Huh? Are you saying he...
by treehuggingoctopus
Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:28 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: On Gnosticism
Replies: 20
Views: 1272

Re: So where do authentic christians go when they die?

Even if Mead's and King's writings might have a little Eurocentrism, they're still better than a lot of the contemporary writings on the topic. If you want some introductory but acceptable and balanced (and pretty conservative, academically speaking) stuff on Gnosticism, try Elaine Pagels. She is t...