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Three year retreat schedule

Post by Sennin » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:38 pm

I came across this schedule and was curious is this typically how the initial 3 year retreat is done in Kagyu (or any other tradition)?
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by conebeckham » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:31 pm

This is a pretty typical Kamtsang schedule.
http://www.bokarmonastery.org/mod/karma ... FjdGljZQ==

Here's the Shangpa version....
http://www.bokarmonastery.org/mod/shang ... FjdGljZQ==
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by conebeckham » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:36 pm

The one you posted has some "Foundation Practice" and then additional stuff--after the Pakshi Ladrup. I don't know what that is. Where did you get the schedule, Sennin? Is that from a Palpung/Situ Rinpoche site?
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by Sennin » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:58 pm

conebeckham wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:36 pm
The one you posted has some "Foundation Practice" and then additional stuff--after the Pakshi Ladrup. I don't know what that is. Where did you get the schedule, Sennin? Is that from a Palpung/Situ Rinpoche site?
Saw it on my Facebook. I'll pm you the link.
I looked at the other versions and it's very interesting to see what practices may be done during retreat.
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by conebeckham » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:59 pm

Bokar Rinpoche’s monastery has some good general info about daily schedule and annual special practices, as well, from a Kagyu POV. Kalacakra was a specialty of his; it’s not often included at other centers.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by Sennin » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:40 pm

conebeckham wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:59 pm
Bokar Rinpoche’s monastery has some good general info about daily schedule and annual special practices, as well, from a Kagyu POV. Kalacakra was a specialty of his; it’s not often included at other centers.
The Shangpa version is interesting...
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by conebeckham » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:39 pm

Sennin wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:40 pm
conebeckham wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:59 pm
Bokar Rinpoche’s monastery has some good general info about daily schedule and annual special practices, as well, from a Kagyu POV. Kalacakra was a specialty of his; it’s not often included at other centers.
The Shangpa version is interesting...
of course it is!
LOL


:smile:
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by Sennin » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:03 am

conebeckham wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:39 pm
Sennin wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:40 pm
conebeckham wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:59 pm
Bokar Rinpoche’s monastery has some good general info about daily schedule and annual special practices, as well, from a Kagyu POV. Kalacakra was a specialty of his; it’s not often included at other centers.
The Shangpa version is interesting...
of course it is!
LOL


:smile:
:D

Any idea why there is so much emphasis on chod and long life practice towards the end?
Also Gyalwa Gyamtso gets nearly the same amount of emphasis as the main deities.
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by conebeckham » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:34 am

Sennin wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:03 am
conebeckham wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:39 pm
Sennin wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:40 pm


The Shangpa version is interesting...
of course it is!
LOL


:smile:
:D

Any idea why there is so much emphasis on chod and long life practice towards the end?
Also Gyalwa Gyamtso gets nearly the same amount of emphasis as the main deities.
Most three year retreats have long life practice at the end--one reason is that the Phowa practices, as well as others, can cause shortening of life. Then, of course, once you've been given the full instructions for practice, you'll want as much time as possible to practice!

The Chod practice is Tsokle Rinchen Trengwa, usually, which is is intensive drupcho all day long.....Cho is said to be the best sort of offering, as it is a nonconceptual mandala offering, in some sense.

Gyalwa Gyamtso is a main deity, a main yidam, for Karma Kagyupas....it is said to be Karmapa's main yidam, and it was the main practice of Jamgon Kongtrul Lodro Taye for many years, and also for Chagme Rinpoche, who wrote a large number of commentaries and instructions related to the practice. Phagmo And Demchok are really related to Six Yogas, but GyalGyam has a focus on the four activities, so it's an appropriate yidam after one is exposed to the methods of accomplishment from Phagmo, ChoDruk, and Demchok.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by lelopa » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:51 am

From which terma-tradition is the 60 days Dorje Drolo at Bokar NC Ling?
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by Stewart » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:25 pm

lelopa wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:51 am
From which terma-tradition is the 60 days Dorje Drolo at Bokar NC Ling?
I'm pretty sure it's Yongey Dorje Drolo.
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by lelopa » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:13 am

Stewart wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:25 pm
lelopa wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:51 am
From which terma-tradition is the 60 days Dorje Drolo at Bokar NC Ling?
I'm pretty sure it's Yongey Dorje Drolo.
:thanks:
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Re: Three year retreat schedule

Post by conebeckham » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:22 pm

Stewart wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:25 pm
lelopa wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:51 am
From which terma-tradition is the 60 days Dorje Drolo at Bokar NC Ling?
I'm pretty sure it's Yongey Dorje Drolo.

Correct.
Lots of tormas!
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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