The Dharmakāya in Early Buddhist Texts

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Re: The Dharmakāya in Early Buddhist Texts

Post by Coëmgenu » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:50 am

ItsRaining wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:33 am
Coëmgenu wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:29 pm
Coëmgenu wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:53 pm
自覺
Also, original enlightenment?
Nah I think that part of the translation is actually accurate "the Tathāgatāni of their own awakening know this" or "The Tathagata themselves know realise this".
Indeed, that was a more wistful suggestion :spy:
並畢竟空。並如來藏。並實相。非三 而三三而不三。非合非散而合而散。非非合非非散。不可一異而一異。
All three truths are ultimately empty, all are tathāgatagarbha, all are true aspect. Not three, they are three; three, they are not three. Neither combined nor separated, neither uncombined nor unseparated. Neither same nor different, yet in a sense same, and in a sense different.

夫三諦者。 天然之性徳也。 中諦者。 統一切法。 眞諦者。 泯一切法。 俗諦者。 立一切法。
The three truths. Heaven-sent natural characteristics. The middle truth unifies all dharmas. The ultimate truth demolishes all dharmas. The conventional truth establishes all dharmas.

摩訶止観始終心要Móhēzhǐguān, Shǐzhōngxīnyào.

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Re: The Dharmakāya in Early Buddhist Texts

Post by Coëmgenu » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:06 am

Coëmgenu wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:53 pm
法住、法空、法如、法爾
dharmāṇām pratiṣṭhitā dharmāṇām śūnyatā dharmāṇām tathātā dharmāṇām tiṣṭhitā
The SF fragments, representing a recension that is parallel, though by no means identical, to the SA/ZA being discussed here, has the following expression:
iti yātra dharmatā dharmasthititā dharmaniyāmatā dharmayathātathā
It would appear that the Sanskrit (Marcus Bingenheimer argues, I will find the citations shortly, for a Prākrit original to the SA material, though some others controversially argue for Gāndhārī) may have had grammatical compounds something more akin to:
法住、法空、法如、法爾
iti yātra dharmatā dharmasthititā dharmanairātmya dharmayathātathā
並畢竟空。並如來藏。並實相。非三 而三三而不三。非合非散而合而散。非非合非非散。不可一異而一異。
All three truths are ultimately empty, all are tathāgatagarbha, all are true aspect. Not three, they are three; three, they are not three. Neither combined nor separated, neither uncombined nor unseparated. Neither same nor different, yet in a sense same, and in a sense different.

夫三諦者。 天然之性徳也。 中諦者。 統一切法。 眞諦者。 泯一切法。 俗諦者。 立一切法。
The three truths. Heaven-sent natural characteristics. The middle truth unifies all dharmas. The ultimate truth demolishes all dharmas. The conventional truth establishes all dharmas.

摩訶止観始終心要Móhēzhǐguān, Shǐzhōngxīnyào.

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