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rory wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:22 am
ItsRaining wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:06 pm
I think her language is suggesting that Tathagatagarbha formed a separate tradition beside that of the Yogacara in China (A few people like Zongmi and Chengguan classified it as such) not that Buddha Nature arose in China.
*sigh* thank you. I include the book and page number and repeatedly say "you can read this over at google books" so that people can inform themselves of the argument and have a thoughtful discussion. If DGA had actually bothered to read the page, he'd see the title as " A Geneaology of Original Enlightenment Thought" and then Indian Yogacara mentioned but a big big discussion of the Chinese apocryphon "The Awakening of Faith", Hua-yen, li
, Zongmi and Chengguan on p. 6 and finally the Buddhahood of non-sentient beings or in Japanese somoku jobutsu
that's page 8!
We agree on the content of Stone's text, as you can see from what I wrote earlier in this thread. Surely you read the whole thread before jumping to conclusions...
But that's the less interesting point. Here's the real crux of the matter:
Based on your extensive reading, would you say that tathagatha-garbha was taught as a central premise of Mahayana Buddhism in India, or do you hold that it was a Chinese development that is absent from Mahayana prior to (or outside the influence of) Zhiyi?
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Oh gods, haven't you ever heard of The Awakening of Faith ?
please for the love of this forum just pick up a book!
Namu Kanzeon Bosatsu
The Tai-ching states "the women in the realms of Mara, Sakra and Brahma all neither abandoned ( their old) bodies nor received (new) bodies. They all received buddhahood with their current bodies (genshin)" Thus these verses state that the dharma nature is like a great ocean. No right or wrong is preached (within it) Ordinary people and sages are equal, without superiority or inferiority
Paul, Groner "The Lotus Sutra in Japanese Culture"eds. Tanabe p. 58
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