Preparing for Ordination in Chan

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Dharmasherab
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Preparing for Ordination in Chan

Post by Dharmasherab » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:28 pm

I am making this thread more on behalf of an online group and its potential members who would be Chan Buddhists rather than myself.

The questions is how to best prepare as a lay Buddhist in one’s practice prior to ordaining in the Chan school of Buddhism?

It is about collecting all types of ideas on how to best prepare as a lay Buddhist before making the decision of ordaining as a monastic as well as a lay ordained member in Chan with a view to making that a lifetime commitment (and not a trial). It is also about how to optimise one’s practice as a Buddhist before making the decision to ordain in Chan.

I hope to share these ideas with the online group because we are a group looking for all types of advice and suggestions for ordination and the way to prepare for Chan ordination will be of great benefit. But even otherwise people who are are thinking of ordaining in Chan in this forum might find the comments helpful.

I am aware there could be Chan monastics/priests/lay-ordained members who are highly aware of the difference between the lay life and monastic life and I will be very thankful for their advice. I can also appreciate there could be lay Chan Buddhists who are already optimizing themselves before ordination and I will be thankful for their tips and suggestions too.

Names of books, documents, websites, links to web articles and videos will be highly appreciated (as long as their within the boundaries of ToS).

Thank you.

Miroku
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Re: Preparing for Ordination in Chan

Post by Miroku » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:05 am

I dunno as I am no zen expert. But I'd say that it is like everywhere else. You have to engage with teacher. Really meditate a lot, study and think about the teachings. Also work on your conduct. As far as I know the zen ordination seems to be the one that is most available (at least here in Czechia as there are not many monks here or any monastery). Also it seems that zen monastics are really devoted students of zen usually, so unless you know you can meditate daily for some hours and follow strict conduct (although I believe sex and meat is allowed in some schools) don't do it.
Child, if you are not hypocritical and out of control, that is conduct.
~ Padampa Sangye

You say such clever things to people, but you do not apply them to yourself.
The faults within you are the ones to be exposed.
~ Padampa Sangye

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Re: Preparing for Ordination in Chan

Post by RisingSon » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:01 pm

Hello Dharmasherab,

I would recommend getting into contact with a teacher. This doesn't have to be hard, I've met mine through the internet and would really recommend getting into contact with one to help you understand the path of Chan (we are having a weekly meeting through an online platform with other enthousiasts).
Besides this, I can recommend studying "The Platform Sutra" by Hui-Neng, The Diamond Sutra & the Heart Sutra.... 3 very essential Chan Sutra's.
Maintaining a practice of sitting meditation (Silent Illumination) for around 30 minutes and keep applying 'Ordinary mind is the way' to daily activities.
Hope this helps

:consoling:

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