The first five patriarchs on meditation

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The first five patriarchs on meditation

Post by Dgj » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:45 pm

Bodhidharma was said to have taught meditation in early sources from the mid seventh century and earlier (Seeing Through Zen, Mcrae, 2003 p. 25). Does anyone know the exact sources and quotes?

Huike?

Sengcan?

Daoxin?

Hongren is credited with The Treatise on the Essentials of Cultivating the Mind; "Sit properly with the body erect. Regulate the breath and concentrate the mind..." (Ibid. p. 40).
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Re: The first five patriarchs on meditation

Post by Astus » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:16 pm

Dgj wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:45 pm
Does anyone know the exact sources and quotes?
For what?
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"

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Re: The first five patriarchs on meditation

Post by Dgj » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:50 pm

Astus wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:16 pm
Dgj wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:45 pm
Does anyone know the exact sources and quotes?
For what?
The sources and quotes that say Bodhidharma taught meditation.
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Re: The first five patriarchs on meditation

Post by Astus » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:52 pm

Dgj wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:50 pm
The sources and quotes that say Bodhidharma taught meditation.
See McRae's The Northern School and the Formation of Early Chʻan Buddhism, p 16-19. He quotes there the Xu Gaoseng Zhuan:

'Feeling compassion [as a result of the decline of the True Teaching in this] obscure corner [of the world (i.e., China), Bodhidharma sought to] lead [the people here to enlightenment] by means of the Dharma. He first reached Nan-yueh within the boundaries of the Sung and later crossed north again to the Wei. Wherever he went he gave instruction in the teaching of meditation (ch'an-chiao). At the time the practice of lecturing [on the Buddhist scriptures] had spread across the entire country, so that [people] often slandered [Bodhidharma] upon hearing the Dharma of samadhi (ting-fa).'
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"

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Re: The first five patriarchs on meditation

Post by Dgj » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:58 pm

Astus wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:52 pm
Dgj wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:50 pm
The sources and quotes that say Bodhidharma taught meditation.
See McRae's The Northern School and the Formation of Early Chʻan Buddhism, p 16-19. He quotes there the Xu Gaoseng Zhuan:

'Feeling compassion [as a result of the decline of the True Teaching in this] obscure corner [of the world (i.e., China), Bodhidharma sought to] lead [the people here to enlightenment] by means of the Dharma. He first reached Nan-yueh within the boundaries of the Sung and later crossed north again to the Wei. Wherever he went he gave instruction in the teaching of meditation (ch'an-chiao). At the time the practice of lecturing [on the Buddhist scriptures] had spread across the entire country, so that [people] often slandered [Bodhidharma] upon hearing the Dharma of samadhi (ting-fa).'
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