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Hakuin

Postby Iconoclast » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:34 am

Which titles from Hakuin should I read?
"Keep on working in this nothingness that is nowhere..."

"Cast aside cares, strip yourself from thoughts, and abandon your body; for prayer is nothing other than detachment from the visible and invisible world."

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Caodemarte » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:27 am

All. :smile:

That said, ignore the old and unreliable translation The Embossed Teakettle and stick with Yampolsky and Waddell.

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Iconoclast » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:47 pm

:twothumbsup: Thank you. I've been debating about ordering Dogen's massive work but found Hakuin's work Posion Blossoms from a Thicket of Thorns. Any thoughts on that collection?
"Keep on working in this nothingness that is nowhere..."

"Cast aside cares, strip yourself from thoughts, and abandon your body; for prayer is nothing other than detachment from the visible and invisible world."

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Caodemarte » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:26 pm

" Blossoms" is Waddell's newest and thickest. It's a very, very good collection (primarily a record of inspirational teachings, but a wide range of other material) and a great read due to Hakuin's often exuberant and multifaceted personality. It is an excellent choice.

BTW, although austere, poetic Dogen and earthy wild man Hakuin seem to have had radically different personalities and teaching styles, I hope that no one imagines that their works are in opposition.

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Iconoclast » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:54 pm

Ordered Poison Blossoms. Sounds deadly.
"Keep on working in this nothingness that is nowhere..."

"Cast aside cares, strip yourself from thoughts, and abandon your body; for prayer is nothing other than detachment from the visible and invisible world."

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Iconoclast » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:04 am

Started reading it today. The notes are extremely helpful and I admit I would be completely lost without them.
"Keep on working in this nothingness that is nowhere..."

"Cast aside cares, strip yourself from thoughts, and abandon your body; for prayer is nothing other than detachment from the visible and invisible world."

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Saoshun » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:26 am

The only book you need is your own mind, why you need almost 700 pages to understand it?

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Kim O'Hara » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:01 pm

Saoshun wrote:The only book you need is your own mind, why you need almost 700 pages to understand it?

We're all different, Saoshun.
84 000 dharma doors and all that:

:reading: :meditate: :group: :coffee:

Choose one or more. :smile:

:namaste:
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Re: Hakuin

Postby Saoshun » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:14 pm

Anyway Hakuin is genuine, try to do his neikan meditation then approach his teachings and koans for better results.

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Caodemarte » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:58 pm

As Hakuin would tell you, inspirational books can be of great, but limited, value. I say this as a person who loves and values reading Hakuin by the way. If you want to really practice with koans please fInd a teacher.

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Re: Hakuin

Postby Iconoclast » Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:24 pm

Thanks folks. I'm just learning about Buddhism especially in relation to mystical traditions of Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. Books are a necessity, "and if there is any money left I'll buy food."

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"Keep on working in this nothingness that is nowhere..."

"Cast aside cares, strip yourself from thoughts, and abandon your body; for prayer is nothing other than detachment from the visible and invisible world."


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