Timer sounds with Mokugyo

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Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Justmeagain » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:12 am

Sorry if this isn't the right [art of the forum.

I am looking to create my own timer (personal not commercial). I would like to use the Mokugyo introduction that I often hear used before the final three gongs to announce a formal Zazen session has begun.

Does anyone know where I can get these sounds or even a pre-recorded version?

Thanks


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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Matylda » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:15 am

Justmeagain wrote:Sorry if this isn't the right [art of the forum.

I am looking to create my own timer (personal not commercial). I would like to use the Mokugyo introduction that I often hear used before the final three gongs to announce a formal Zazen session has begun.

Does anyone know where I can get these sounds or even a pre-recorded version?

Thanks
i am not sure what do you mean by mokugyo before 3 bells to announce zazen... mokugyo is rather used for sutra recitation.. what is used before zazen is moppan which is hit 3 times http://www.shomonji.or.jp/zazen/moppan.gif this is typical soto moppan..

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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Meido » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:39 am

Or maybe OP means taku before hitting the inkin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr9uhf2wjiE
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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Matylda » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:54 am

Justmeagain wrote:Sorry if this isn't the right [art of the forum.

I am looking to create my own timer (personal not commercial). I would like to use the Mokugyo introduction that I often hear used before the final three gongs to announce a formal Zazen session has begun.

Does anyone know where I can get these sounds or even a pre-recorded version?

Thanks

this one http://www.jyofukuji.com/06kokoro/-1999 ... moppan.jpg is typical rinzai moppan which is square and writting is mostly simple 4 charakters, 'the great matter of birth and death' soto one has longer addmonition...
the one on the picture belongs to rinzai line of Daitokuji branch ...

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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Matylda » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:51 pm

Meido wrote:Or maybe OP means taku before hitting the inkin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr9uhf2wjiE

http://hoko-butugu.com/SHOP/125-8.html

yeah ok, but it is not used in soto for zazen, neither inkin is used to time zazen periods.. in soto they would use moppan in gaitan and densho in naitan.. it is from Zuiryuji http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/2 ... ikdzj.jpeg

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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Meido » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:44 pm

Thanks, that's interesting. After I posted I thought maybe in Soto places it is a little different...nice to know.

Here's the han my teacher made for our place:
KorinjiHan.jpg
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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Matylda » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:03 am

Meido wrote:Thanks, that's interesting. After I posted I thought maybe in Soto places it is a little different...nice to know.

Here's the han my teacher made for our place:

KorinjiHan.jpg
this one looks like more like soto moppan.. however soto moppan has very precise measurments... one may find in soto manuals

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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Meido » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:35 pm

I don't know much about Soto things, but have seen various shapes/inscriptions at Rinzai places. The teacher who wrote this one was from Tenryuji-ha...

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Korinji Rinzai Zen Monastery [臨済宗 • 祖的山光林禅寺] - http://www.korinji.org
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Re: Timer sounds with Mokugyo

Post by Matylda » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:50 pm

Meido wrote:I don't know much about Soto things, but have seen various shapes/inscriptions at Rinzai places. The teacher who wrote this one was from Tenryuji-ha...

~ Meido
yes I understand... it is not unfamiliar lineage to me.. I was big admirer of Tekisui Giboku...

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