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Diets are dumb

Post by DGA » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:32 pm

Food is good

Eat, drink, be merry

Discuss

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by justsit » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:05 pm

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Post by amanitamusc » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:40 pm

DGA wrote:Food is good

Eat, drink, be merry

Discuss
We are all different and no one diet is the right one.A great addition to my diet is kefir,chaga,maca ,reishi ,pau d arco,amalaki,krill and beer.

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by emaho » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:08 pm

Well, yeah, "diet" in the sense of short term reduction of calories in order to loose weight, diets are pretty dumb. Every child knows that in most cases that leads to yoyo-effect. But in the sense of long term watching out, what you eat and see that it's not too much crap I think it makes very much sense. :smile:
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Post by Thomas Amundsen » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:43 pm

emaho wrote:Well, yeah, "diet" in the sense of short term reduction of calories in order to loose weight, diets are pretty dumb. Every child knows that in most cases that leads to yoyo-effect. But in the sense of long term watching out, what you eat and see that it's not too much crap I think it makes very much sense. :smile:
Totally agreed. In my experience, diet has quite a direct impact on quality of life and mental clarity.

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Post by odysseus » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:16 pm

Diet is a fad of the modern. The "personal trainers" make good money out of something so basic for the humans. Just eat normally, I say.

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Post by Kim O'Hara » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:23 pm

tomamundsen wrote:
emaho wrote:Well, yeah, "diet" in the sense of short term reduction of calories in order to loose weight, diets are pretty dumb. Every child knows that in most cases that leads to yoyo-effect. But in the sense of long term watching out, what you eat and see that it's not too much crap I think it makes very much sense. :smile:
Totally agreed. In my experience, diet has quite a direct impact on quality of life and mental clarity.
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Post by jkarlins » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:31 pm

DGA wrote:Food is good

Eat, drink, be merry

Discuss
agree!

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Post by Kim O'Hara » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:57 pm

odysseus wrote:Diet is a fad of the modern.
Absolutely. Before modern times, even westerners ate everything they could find and still went hungry a lot of the time.

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Post by Dharma Flower » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:13 am

DGA wrote:Food is good

Eat, drink, be merry

Discuss
That's really bad advice. If someone has a health problem like heart disease or diabetes, they need a specific diet for the sake of their personal health.

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by Strive » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:28 am

fasting is a good way to lose weight and has many benifits

but it requires lots of discipline

check out the book eat stop eat by brad pilon

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Post by ratna » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:58 am

Here's what the Buddha taught on dieting. When seeing the fat king Prasenajit overeating, he did recommend him a kind of diet, "mindfulness of the proper amount of food", so to speak.

His verse reminds me of modern scientific results on the effects of caloric restriction on longevity.

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by monktastic » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:52 pm

I almost never allow myself to experience genuine hunger. At the first hint of it, I quickly find food and then generally eat well past the point of satiation. I've recently tried turning this around: allow myself to become uncomfortably hungry, and then only eat till satiation (resulting in "calorie restriction"). Occasionally let my body deal with that hunger for a good 24 hours ("intermittent fasting").

From a modern perspective, that would be considered a diet. I'd like to think of it as "eating normally" (as our ancestors did). Turns out a little discomfort won't kill me. Comes with a huge slew of health benefits, too (at least for some people).
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Post by Cianan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:19 pm

Shakyamuni and Padmasambhava both thought it worth reminding people the importance of their diet, and I absolutely think there's something to it. What an impact it has on the mind. I have seen that your diet significantly affects everything from mood to sociability to the ability to focus while practicing. Fasting is invaluable to wellness as well, in my experience.

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Post by Dharma Flower » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:12 am

I've lost seven pounds in the last week on a plant-based diet. And unlike on the keto or paleo diets, I am not clogging my arteries in the process. I am not starving myself. If anything, I am eating more often than I did before, but healthy foods like whole wheat pasta and tortillas, potatoes, romaine lettuce, etc. This is not for short-term weight loss, but instead for my long-term health.

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Post by DGA » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:48 pm

Sure, watch what you eat in order to be healthy and happy and live well.

Getting hung up on a diet as one's identity is dumb, dumb, dumb.

Also, food is delicious and good. Sex is good too. Booze? Also good. If you have a serious problem with these, avoid them. Otherwise, enjoy, because who wants to be a humorless fool living a colorless life?

Enjoy the party, kids.

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by Sādhaka » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:06 pm

Yeah it's best to eat a little of everything, and not obsess.

There are some useful guidelines though:

Eat 100% organic if possible.

Too much dairy is bad, especially if it's not grassfed & unpasteurized.

The body does not process gluten and unsprouted grains very well, contributing to inflammation.

Eat vegetables and especially fruits.

It's good to eat a lot of good fats: unprocessed olive oil, avocados, ghee, grass fed butter, unprocessed coconut oil etc.

Processed/white salt, processed/white sugar, processed/white flour is bad for you etc.
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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by odysseus » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:19 pm

Sādhaka wrote:Yeah it's best to eat a little of everything, and not obsess.

There are some useful guidelines though:

Eat 100% organic if possible.

Too much dairy is bad, especially if it's not grassfed & unpasteurized.

The body does not process gluten and unsprouted grains very well, contributing to inflammation.

Eat vegetables and especially fruits.

It's good to eat a lot of good fats: unprocessed olive oil, avocados, ghee, grass fed butter, unprocessed coconut oil etc.

Processed/white salt, processed/white sugar, processed/white flour is bad for you etc.
Sounds like a diet to me. No offense. :smile:

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by justsit » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:01 pm

odysseus wrote:
Sādhaka wrote:....
Sounds like a diet to me. No offense. :smile:
Of course it's a diet - everything you eat is "a diet." :

What Sadhaka describes is a basic diet for anyone who wants to eat in a healthy way, as opposed to some fad, like Atkins, Paleo, South Beach, Zone, etc. No special title, just real food.

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Re: Diets are dumb

Post by DGA » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:00 am

justsit wrote: some fad, like Atkins, Paleo, South Beach, Zone, etc. No special title, just real food.
These sorts of things are what I'm referring to as a "diet" per se.

Or the "I don't have celiac disease or a wheat allergy, but I avoid gluten because I read on Pinterest I should" diet.

Or the "I'm living on bone broth and butter only because I read on Facebook I should" diet.

Or the vegan trip.

Or whatever.

Like I said, food is good, even German food sometimes, so enjoy it while you can as best you can.

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